ESTABLISHMENT ROCKED: Yale Professor Discovers Tea Party Members Are “More Scientifically Literate”

According to the research done by Yale Professor, Dan M. Kahan, individuals who have an affiliation with the Tea Party are slightly more scientifically literate than the non-Tea Party population.

What this proves is most people who have a negative opinion of Tea Party member’s intelligence usually form their opinions based on misrepresentations from both television and online sources.

As Kahan said, “I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising… I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”

Listen to Rush Limbaugh discussing the results:

  • brenda Harrell

    Everyone knows the Tea Party is smarter than a dumbocrat.

    • mathis1689

      Rocks are smarter than dumbocrats.

      • William Benton

        If a democrats brain was gas it would not start a red bugs motorbike

        • mathis1689

          If hot air would start an engine Obama could send a spacecraft to Mars every time he gave a speech.

  • taldock

    It shouldn’t take a degree from Yale to figure out that Tea Party members are smarter than low information democrats.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      You mean the people that vote solely for the race or gender of the candidate?

      • M. MOLNAR

        You missed your blog site. You are on the wrong page. Perhaps you need to reboot your system? Try Norton’s AntiVirus? Something came out backwards…can you feel it? Good luck with this.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          Not sure if your are unable to follow along here or just being a libTURD troll! Or, BOTH!!

          • M. MOLNAR

            Just checking you out. Trying to see how sharp you are…you got it.
            And, yes, I was a Liberal for decades until Obama ran for office in 2007-2008 when I immediately became a Conservative. Knew then he was going to try to destroy our Nation, just didn’t know how bad he really was.

            I was already blogging in 2007 against him being elected in 2008. I tried to convince people that his motives weren’t those of an American, but of those of someone else from another country. The harder I slammed bho, the more angry the Libs would come at me. When I told them all the things he would do then, they called me a Racist, said I didn’t like Blacks. I had Black friends all through my life and Black members in my family…it had nothing to do with Race, but everything to do with what drives the man…evil, pure evil. I blogged for days with these people giving them examples of what his actions could do to our Nation, they called me a liar and that he would never do that to Americans. Funny, all of those people I blogged with are now realizing I was telling the God’s truth…because he has done everything I predicted. The main thing he did was turn race against race inside our Country…unforgiveable. But that is how you destroy a Country, by causing dissension between its peoples, breaking apart their faith in one another.

            obama has tried so many different ways to weaken our Nation from Day One of his administration…he is tired of doing that now, so he just goes golfing instead. It’s more fun with his celeb Sports friends and bho can forget about the stresses running a huge country. But what I don’t get is why he keeps our borders open when he knows there’s a threat of Terrorists (ISIS now) entering and causing issues inside. This makes no sense to me unless THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS.

            I don’t understand, but I do know that he has lied at every opportunity about everything and that his life is nothing but a sham, a composite of other people’s lives to make him look acceptable to Americans. Only I was never accepting of him because there was a stronger force at hand that was affecting me physically and I knew him to be wrong for our Nation. And, he is.

            And yet, many of the Libs still support him as if he has done nothing to hurt them. Why is that? Are they so dense they just don’t get it? Did they drink his kool aid?Did they take a pledge to obey and worship him when they voted him in? I thought people were smarter than that…I guess I was wrong. God help us to clear our Govt. of any rebellious Libs so we can save our country and rebuild her strength. America deserves our Loyalty…obama does not!

            Sorry for the confusion in my previous blog. Your name threw me…not sure which side you were on. Now I know! Thanks.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            God Bless the patriotic, soldier, veteran, citizen, Worshiper, protector, father, mother……….

          • M. MOLNAR

            I’m right there with you…God bless them all! They are what made our Country Great, not the obamas or holders or clintons or pelosis or reids, but the common folk who make this country run! God bless them all!

          • patriot 86

            And give us all the strength to take her back when the time comes.

          • No name nut case

            Be careful about what kind of worshiper your want protection for!

          • icetrout

            God damn a buffalo… here comes the landslide…. RINO Season in 2 months … make em go extinct ! Go Tea Party!… we ain’t dead,just playing Possum … 😛

          • patriot 86

            You got that right ‘ the dems and libtards will get schooled in what happens when you piss on 100 million voters .

          • pat ange

            Corrupt, lying, treasonist, scandal making, American destroying, stupid incompetent sissy cowards just bring out those feelings in Americans.Took some awhile to lose hope in him, but you can’t deni something that hits you in the face. Ole Biden even said THIS Week, “we are going to take our country back”. America will.

          • patriot 86

            yup and now obumbler has delayed his immigration reform until after the november midterms cuz he fears the damage it would do to many senate incumbents chances for reelection and a shift to a republican controlled senate.Little does this a hole know that delaying it will only further piss off those he promised hed tackle it before the end of summer ‘ he clearly doesnt have a freakin clue about anything ‘ cant wait till hes gone for good.

          • Lougjr1

            For the 1000 th time I will again tell all Americans that Obama is truly a Muslim and is caught between a rock and a hard place. He is the American president, GOD only knows why, and he is a Muslim raised as a child and thinks the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful thing he has ever heard. Stated in a speech when in the middle east a year or two ago . He does not want to kill the bastards yet is stalling for time while Americans are having their heads cut off. A

          • jtitan241

            After he came to America to use our tax dollars to get his education, as slim as his education is, a true waste of tax dollars you would think he could at least give us some good due but no his mind set is to destroy America as quick as he can.

          • Dick Delson

            Obama was born in Hawaii you idiot. And his grandfather fought with Patton ‘s
            Third Army in WW 2

          • Dwimby

            His Kenyan grandfather fought with Patton?

          • Dick Delson

            You bet.
            Bush didn’t serve because he begged his father to keep him out of the military.
            But his father served as a WW ll fighter pilot.

          • What’s Up?

            It’s Bushes fault. Get a new mantra.

          • DeeBar

            What B.S. He was in the National Guard and trained as a fighter pilot . You know nothing ! AND HIS OLD MAN NEVER FOUGHT WITH PATTON !

          • Dick Delson

            It was his grandfather. And all I said was that he served. Blacks were not yet integrated into the military. Is every right winger as DUMB as you?????

          • DeeBar

            You’re the Progressive , not me !

          • Dick Delson

            What are you, besides STUPID?

          • DeeBar

            Seems to me it is you being admonished for your idiotic statements .
            Lets see , I’m a Vet , commanded troops , Have owned two very successful business’s which I’ve sold at a good price and still own two , one very successful , one not so much because of Ocraps regulations . I’m sure you have no idea of what I’m saying here but with some education you’ll maybe learn however I don’t have much faith that will happen .
            C’mon with your in depth answer to this with your one liners .

          • Dick Delson

            I was in the Army, but only commanded to pitches I threw. Pitched Ft. Eustis into the Army championship. We lost 1 – 0 on an error in the 10th innings. And I’ve has more than enough dealing with right wingers like you.

          • DeeBar

            Too bad you never had a 60 or a 16 pointed at an enemy and them pointing at you then maybe that “Come to Jesus” moment could have changed you enough to understand right from wrong .

          • Dick Delson

            Are you as dumb as I think you are?

          • rocky63

            Is your thinking as sub-standard as I think it is?

          • Dick Delson

            Did you know Jesus was a rabbi when he was crucified?

          • pat ange

            he mostlikely played stick-ball while waitng in the food stamp line. What makes liberals such phonies and total liars? Not intelligent enough to make their lies belivable.

          • DeeBar

            What in your opinion makes me or anyone a right winger ?
            And by the way playing Special Services in the Army is nothing I’d brag about . I shot for the Army International T&S team but volunteered for VN as did several others I shot with and against . Being on the team was great but serving my country in a command post was even better and character builder unlike what you experienced .

          • Dick Delson

            There was no war when I was in the Army. I just happened to be a good baseball player. And what did you command? The motor pool…

          • DeeBar

            Yeah I was too but that doesn’t give you anything special . What makes an individual special is their honor and deeds .
            Your remarks are juvenile at best and when asked a question it’s just another juvenile answer . So what makes someone right wing ? No answer ?
            I was a Platoon Leader 82nd Airborne . It wasn’t a sport .

          • Dick Delson

            I think that’s very commendable. I was offered a commission, but turned it down.
            Had there been a war, I would have gone into the air force and flown jets
            Take care of yourself, we need guys like you around.

          • Sammie Miers

            I am a retired Vietnam Combat Veteran SF. Dick you are such a pussy. You should be ashamed to say you are a vet.if that all you did for this Great Country was play ball. God help this little ball of shit..

          • Dick Delson

            There was no war when I was in the military. I guess I should have started one to
            satisfy a schmuck like you.

          • Sammie Miers

            Why not G W B did. One schmuck to another schmuck.

          • icetrout

            Dick,Dick,Dick,Dick… Dick the progressive social communist is such a brain,,, can we see your transcripts Dick ? Oh,their sealed….

          • Donald York

            After watching Al Sharpeton, Chris Matthews, And Rachael Maddow, do you stay up late enough to catch the Ed Schultz show? You would have gotten a whole days worth of brainwashing. Liberals like you sir are “trained” to obey your masters. It is so sad that so many people are indoctrinated to become anti-American and accept the liberal, Socialist way of thinking.
            Take care, and PLEASE, get help!

          • rocky63

            His grandfather was born in, and lived in, Kenya. He did not and could not have served in Patton’s Army. The US was not discriminating against Kenyans, like Obummers grandfather. They were in Kenya, not here. What a dolt you are.

            By the way, your wonderful Obama was born in 1961. In his false birth certificate, the only one anyone has seen, it says his father was 25 at Obummer’s birth. That would mean he was born in about 1936. Yet in one of the books Obummer pretends he wrote, he claims his father served in WWII. He certainly must have been the youngest soldier in that war, since he was only 9 when the war ended.

            You post an awful lot for someone so ill-informed and gullible.

          • patriot 86

            Patton would have bitch slapped him back to kenya

          • DeeBar

            like that .

          • patriot 86

            I know george senior was a pilot in the pacific but i heard he flew a dive bomber not a fighter ‘ makes no difference cuz he served his country.

          • pat ange

            Bush never traveled as a drug mule and never gave blow jobs his drug mongel & customers

          • Dick Delson

            who in the world are you talking about? who was a drug mule?

          • rocky63

            Bush, the son, was in the air national guard. Flew jets. While you were home sitting on your butt.

          • fjoy

            his grandfather was in the military BUT HE NEVER FOUGHT WITH PATTON.
            HIS DUTY WAS…….WAIT FOR IT DESK DUTY IN ENGLAND GOOGLE IT PAL AND STOP BEING WHAT YOUR NAME IS

          • Dick Delson

            Tell me about George W. Moron’s military service? Oh, he begged his father to keep him out of the military because he’s a coward. And you are an idiot.

          • pat ange

            Tell us about Obama’s military service. Tell us when he was even human. Larry Sinclair spent time in a limo with barry, snorting & having “contact ” with him. Of course he was run dowm by a HIT & RUN driver ( twice to make sure ). after he went public. Of course the case was never closed…He said Obama told him how much he liked rich old white men.

          • What’s Up?

            His father wasn’t old enough to fight with Patton

          • Dick Delson

            His grandfather…

          • Richard F

            Your a real sucker if you actually believe That Obama was born in Hawaii. All these lies have been contrived by big money like the evilest guy on the planet, George Soros which was and still is the money behind the monkey. We are all in danger and you are too stupid to see it.

          • patriot 86

            HAHAHAHA thats rich ‘ how in the hell do you know about his grandfather fighting in ww2 ‘ Oh wait obama said it right ‘ just another one of his many lies ‘ his all time whopper is IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE YOU CAN KEEP IT ‘ HAHAHAHA THE VERY WORDS THAT WILL DOOM THE DUMBOCRATS IN NOVEMBER.

          • michael cates

            dam right and with 2 dozen scandals the dam senate and republican will not impeach he is muslim gives 900 million of our money to muslim brotherhood he lets 300.000 illegals come over cause they vote dem-o-rat if you vote dem-o-rat you are helping to destroy america

          • pat ange

            The house can bring Impeachment against Obama. BUT the SENATE desides what action to take against him. Don’t you remember Bill Clinton? Thats why we have to take the Senate in Nov.Unlike the Demoncrats; the Republicans must obey the laws. We don’t own a crooked Att. Gen. Racist.

          • michael cates

            hi pat you are right the senate has to also vote for impeachment with the 300.000 illegals in the not all children only 60.000 rest or teens and older that o-bat-shit-bama started cause they vote demon-rats and then the corrupt pres-shit gives 900.000 to muslim brotherhood and wespons that is why no action on isis he wants to protect his muslim cause he is one I never voted for that piece of crap I knew before what he was have a good 1 bro

          • No name nut case

            I remember that speech very well, and he did say that about the Muslim call to prayer. I was in Jerusalem quite a few years ago and heard that call to prayer coming from the loud speakers situated all over the city. How Obama could ever think of that screeching noise as beautiful can only mean that he is totally deaf!

          • Irvan

            NO, he is mentally illiterate. He is too stupid to pour pee out of his boot!

          • Larry

            You still can not tell me what the lies are.
            What are they, where are they.
            Still waiting for you Truth haters to answer. If you don’t make more than one Mil. a year, you are part of that 47% you dumb ass. If you served in the Service, you are part of that 47%. They put their life on line for ALL OF US. But according to the facts, they take in the most in food stamps. Why is that?!!? If you are a Fireman, Police Officer, Parole Officer and the list goes on. You are part of that 47%, you dumb asses. Read between the damn lines, you are middle class, probably close to the poor house, now how can you vote against YOUR OWN BEST INTEREST. I am not your enemy, look at the Congress that you have Voted for, and tell me who has your best interest.

          • pat ange

            If you don’t know what lies ObaMA TELLS, YOU HAVE NEVER LISTENED TO HIM……. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR iNSURANCE( he destroyed private ins.) You can keep your Doctor (Not when he runs them out of business)..Ft. Hood was work place violence. Bengazi was caused by a video. Not a smigen of scandal. Lawbreakers just make “bone-headed mistakes” LIES THAT HE IS A CHRISTAIN,(GOD will take care of that one). This doesen’t scratch the surface of lies from LIAR-IN-CHIEF.Only fools believe him. The whole world has no respect for him, he is a laughing stock to the world; But he is destroying our country.

          • Larry

            You still can not tell me what the lies are.
            What are they, where are they.
            Still waiting for you Truth haters to answer. If you don’t make more than one Mil. a year, you are part of that 47% you dumb ass. If you served in the Service, you are part of that 47%. They put their life on line for ALL OF US. But according to the facts, they take in the most in food stamps. Why is that?!!? If you are a Fireman, Police Officer, Parole Officer and the list goes on. You are part of that 47%, you dumb asses. Read between the damn lines, you are middle class, probably close to the poor house, now how can you vote against YOUR OWN BEST INTEREST. I am not your enemy, look at the Congress that you have Voted for, and tell me who has your best interest.

          • No name nut case

            Well, I have to agree with that, too. Lol!

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Even if the instructions were on the heel.

          • Lougjr1

            Wrong, he hears very well, but he is truly a Muslim and has no interest in destroying them because, I among others believe he would like to see Islam and Shariah law to control the world. If Americans have been paying attention , which they have not, his actions speak louder than his words !

          • pat ange

            …He listens with a evil demonic heart.

          • What’s Up?

            Google Obama admits he’s a Muslim.

          • No name nut case

            Exactly! I heard him say it myself. I bet they destroyed those videos though. The left can’t claim that Obummer is a Christian, when it is convenient to them, and then him turn around and confess that he is a Muslim. All I can figure out about the man is that he is a consummate liar!

          • What’s Up?

            I just googled it two days ago,

          • pat ange

            Radical Islamic Muslim terrorist have been coming tru the mexican border for at least 4-5 years ( documented that long) Obama knows this as well as the thousands here illegaly on student visa who didn.t go to school, but dissapeared into our country. He has done nothing to apprehend 1 of them. His imigration bill will make THEM citizens. He sides with RLM Terrorist all the time and demoncrats support him. He has given weapons to them. He is the child of a Rad. I.Muslim & a communist. He will destroy America, but not protect us. I pray God will stoip him.

          • Larry

            That is a DAMN LIE. But your Lord and Savior, R. Regan gave out Amnesty Papers. Go figure that out.

          • patriot 86

            Dont use obumblers name in the same sentence as RONALD REAGAN ‘ obumbler isnt fit to shine his boots ‘ f****ng kenyan loser.

          • No name nut case

            Larry you are putting yourself out on a limb. I know you said that as an insult, but it is more than that. I know you won’t believe it and you will laugh, but he who laughs last, laughs best. Your comment was blasphemous and you will have to deal with God over it. I’m sure you don’t believe in God either, but just because you don’t believe Him, doesn’t mean He isn’t there and that He won’t take vengeance against people like you.

          • pat ange

            People who have helped Obama destroy Christain America will pay the price. The man in hell begged God to let Lazerus( who he despised on earth) to come and put a drop of water on his tongue in hell. God told he NO, there is no crossing from heaven to hell nor from hell to heaven. FINAL DESTINATION: BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

          • No name nut case

            One HUGE lie that Obummer tells is that he is a Christian and then that he is a Muslim! He says he was born in Kenya, and then he says he was born in Hawaii, Which is it Larry? Can you figure it out? I can’t!

          • pat ange

            “Born in Kenya, Raised in Indonesia” Obama wrote it himself. God will see that he pays for that blasphemy of calling himself a Christain. He believes he (Obama) is God. He is a total narcissis personality as well as a other mental problems, of course I have read papers on him by respected psychiatric. doctors. Scary.

          • pat ange

            How about you left-wing Anti American luniticks put the Demoncratic Jackass in office next time. He is far more qulified than your narcissis fake prez. You are so upset because Regan was America’s most loved & respected (by the World) American President. Obama is despised by the world: as well as America’s Worst present & future president. Hard to even imagine a worse human than he is; in the same class as Hitler. Of course there is the other half of the bobbsie twins:….Barack/Hillary. She is just as vile and both are owned by George Sorous & the devil. Maybe when your head is in a stick you will see what your fake king is. You are a fool; want to call someone a liar, look at your corrupt Liar in chief.

          • AllanGardnerMiles

            It has been reported that 60,000 have over stayed their visas and their whereabouts are unknown. America fell into a dangerous trap when eligibility requirements for the presidency were not followed by the democrats..

          • Larry

            Wow, you are so into yourself, wait; you can read the Bible, and don’t understand the words. What has he done to hurt this country. Your Republicant’s friends refuse to do there damn JOBS, and what do you say about that. Not a DAMN THING. You and your insane ass irrelevant party would blame him any and everything, in which you have. If the sun losses a shade of red, you will blame him. You say that from DAY ONE you was against him. So you can predict the future, I guess you should be in the mainstream!!!! Did you read the Constitution, or is the Fox Boobs telling you what to THINK. The man has passed Equal Pay for Women, to name one. Are you against that???? I’m not sure if you are a self thinker, or are you following script from talking pondents. Do your homework and then BLOG. It’s not a hard Job, show me some comparisons, to your so-called facts. And to end this note, your Fox Boobs and Friends started the Race Bateing. What has the President said/done to make sure that this was at the top of the list of things to do during his Tenure.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Or just read Larry’s spew!!..

          • Larry

            Read my reply dumb ass.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Can’t libTURD, you can’t put two words together coherently.

          • No name nut case

            “He can’t hep it” (as a former democrat female politician named Richards used to say). Obama was educated in a foreign country (and for you libtards I’m not referring to Hawaii, which has not been “another country” for quite a few years).

          • CTH

            I do not believe he/she is a relative of yours, dumbass.

          • mrstockenstine

            He’s the one that always blames someone else. Never takes responsibility for anything that goes wrong. He has lied so many times I don’t have enough fingers and toes to count them; still, idiots like you still think he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread even though he seems to be determined to completely destroy the moral fabric of our country (and he’s succeeding-you are one of the proofs).

          • Larry

            You still can not tell me what the lies are.
            What are they, where are they.
            Still waiting for you Truth haters to answer. If you don’t make more than one Mil. a year, you are part of that 47% you dumb ass. If you served in the Service, you are part of that 47%. They put their life on line for ALL OF US. But according to the facts, they take in the most in food stamps. Why is that?!!? If you are a Fireman, Police Officer, Parole Officer and the list goes on. You are part of that 47%, you dumb asses. Read between the damn lines, you are middle class, probably close to the poor house, now how can you vote against YOUR OWN BEST INTEREST. I am not your enemy, look at the Congress that you have Voted for, and tell me who has your best interest.

          • Bible believer

            Larry u should go join Isis

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            First, go back to the first grade to learn how to form a sentence.

          • Scarlett

            Yes , a sentence without a curse word.If you were to quote all of Obummer ‘s lies,you’d be here all night.I’m sure he knows them , everyone else does.

          • pat ange

            We don’t talk to someone who uses OSAMA OBAMA as a name

          • CTH

            It is probable that he has already done so.

          • “If you like your doctor you can keep him.” How many more outright, bald-face lis do you want? 30,,,,40? Our own best interest is something you wouldn’t understand if you think Obongo is blameless for the shape our country is in. He is purposely transforming our great nation into a third world welfare state. Welfare and foodstamps are not in our best interest, but jobs and a solid economy with less regulations and government interference are. Wise up, dipstick.

          • Larry

            You must be in a RED STATE.
            Take a Breath, or apply the OX…

          • bobwhite

            You are a pathetic provocateur.

          • Marco Beeman

            Must be time for your next infusion of that special obummer KOOL AID, Larry. when that is done, you might want to go to, say, Wikipedia, or the Canadian Free Press, or any similar publication and read up on your “hero” and his quest to “transform” our beautiful country into a third-world sh*thole through his socialist, alinsky-driven policies that are right out of rules for radicals. Bill Ayers is one of his “handlers”??? Do your homework on him, sir. And you might want to check out george soros’ background too, while you are at it. Maybe, just maybe, you will actually learn something useful, but I highly doubt it.

          • pat ange

            NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE!

          • CTH

            dumbass

          • Psjlt

            Well said! Sums it all up in one word, thanks!

          • fjoy

            shut up and call someone on your Obummer phone. or get some skittles and ice
            tea on your EBT card

          • pat ange

            You are so big on FACTS: suppose you tell us just one construtive thing Obama has done for each of the 5 years he has been in office. Thats only 5 things, well????

          • reggie

            Do you get paid by the word?

          • Scott Figgins

            Ummm ,,If you like your Doctor you can keep him ,if you like your insurance you can keep it!Is that clear enough?

          • Frederick Fargher

            You know what’s really retarded & completely sad? When Far-Left liberals like you always ask for a list of Obama’s treasonous transgressions, because you are either too freakin’ blind & ignorant to figure it out for yourself, or you are just too stupid & lacking enough common sense to recognize pure evil when it’s happening right in your very midst!

          • Scarlett

            Wow,you said that so well!

          • Larry

            How does that make you feel??
            ??????????????

          • Cynic

            Yes, we are not going to give you what you want, Lame-Ass Larry.

            If you are so in love with Obama that you can’t see his transgressions, you certainly don’t deserve a list from us.

            I suppose as long as a Democrat is in the White House, you’ll march behind him or her like a rat following the Pied Piper.

          • Larry

            Everytime the Car goes off Course, it is the DEM’s Issue, you jump your ASSES out of the DAMN seat. Why is that???? YOU blame this mess on the DEMS. Who Started the WARS, for OIL. WHO is Paying for this. To all of your ASSES, you are PAYING JUST LIKE ME, WHY???? FYI ………….

          • No name nut case

            Your biggest problem is that you drink the Kool-Aid. You can’t see the forest for the trees, bud. Open your eyes and take a really good look around. This country is being sucked dry! Prices have sky rocketed since he has been in office. And if you hate people who make money off of the stock market, guess what. Liberals make the stock market soar because they cause prices of goods and services to soar!! Check it out. Obum is making market investors a LOT of money! I should know. But, I still hate the buzzard because he doesn’t know the truth from a lie. He would sell this country out in a heartbeat and he has!! And as far as loving the Bush’s, your wrong there, too. They folded to the left and I have no respect for them anymore and won’t support another Bush if they did run for Prez.
            So, before spouting off about things you obviously know nothing about, you should check out the facts, bud.
            HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL, LARRY?

          • pat ange

            Do you guys hear the twilight zone music when you talk?

          • patriot 86

            Yup they would follow that a hole off a cliff and not question it ‘ BLIND IDIOTS.

          • pat ange

            Something like thats most likely what he will do with them when he gets tru using them…..If He destroys America as he plans. Wonder if they will appreciate us saving their sorry butts?

          • No name nut case

            Kind of reminds me about people following Hitler into the ovens. Dems would do the exact same thing!

          • pat ange

            love that koolaide

          • Larry

            This is your best ANSWER. Prove YOUR POINT??? Show me some facts. Or read how your Government has been working for YOU. DAMN!!!!! You still do not see it.

          • pat ange

            WE have shown you the facts; but you can’t see them because you head is up Obama’s Butt. (barry likes that)

          • patriot 86

            In larrys case its ALL OF THE ABOVE.

          • Cynic

            Blah blah blah. Go troll somewhere else, fool.

          • Wingedgodd3ss

            If you like your dr you can keep your dr. If you like your insurance coverage you can keep your insurance coverage. Premiums will go down by $2500 per family. Idiot.

          • mldld

            well I think that the GOP is outsmarting your Obama by doing nothing and saying nothing. Now you have nothing to twist around to accuse the GOP of every thing your small brain can dish out… GO GOP let them swim in their S….

          • Dana Lefey Muave

            You are all missing the point. Obama is nothing more than a puppet on the string of the money changers. Ronald Reagan turned this country’s government into a militaries regime by re-establishing the many military instillations that were close to extinction when he took office. George Bush Senior rode his coat tails to win the election after 8 years of ‘don’t worry, be happy’, turning us all into ignorant consumers stuck on our couch watching their version of reality. George Bush Sr is very good friends with Sheiks of the middle east and was a member of the CIA, Special Covert Operations Division. He and his family own most or all the of the oil sites in Texas and through out the United States. Bill Clinton is apart of the same organizations that control the global economy and George Bush Jr is a coward and pure evil. His eight year tenor included on his resume; murder, torture, high treason, elimination of the Bill of Rights and the decline of the US Dollar. Obama is just a puppet on the strings of those who control the old money of this planet. The Twelve plus One, is what I call them. We are fighting an organization not one man and his executive staff. They will only continue to abuse us as long as we allow them to.

          • Dana Lefey Muave

            Oh, and Dick Cheney and his minions own the largest munitions plant this country has to offer. We, Americans, make nothing anymore but guns, ammunition and debt. And if it were not for us growing the worlds food sources we would have been a third world country a long time ago.

          • DeeBar

            I agree with your last couple of posts completely and why I’m not an R . Both parties lead to the same place , just a different avenue .
            I don’t believe the torture business though .
            Most people have been indoctrinated into the 2 party system and the 2 party system is to keep us tearing up this country by division . That’s the only way they have of staying in power .

          • DeeBar

            Doesn’t matter which side , both are crappy to say the least . The TEA Party has the most folks with brains as I see it and what is needed is term limits , get Gov off of our backs reduce the Corp Tax’s and take the loopholes out , go to a flat tax or something else fair .
            It’s not a secret how money is made . This country could takeoff like a rocket if only allowed to .
            The deeper question is how we get folks to understand the meaning of freedom and that’s something we must do as there are so many that don’t know .
            I don’t see this Adm. favorable in any way . In total they have no experience in any field what so ever , only ” theories ” they will make real and we’re the experiment !
            I don’t call Ocrap my president , small letters intentional . I’m not anything other than a Capitalist and Conservative with a heart I hope . R’s and D’s don’t really do it for me .

          • mldld

            You could be right, one thing I do know is that i prefer the mentality of a tea party patriots than the mentality of liberals. What you talk about is a real possibility and that would not surprise me if it turns out to be true. The one world order run by a few etc.. etc..

          • patriot 86

            yup i think that what dana said is very possible but Ille side with the gop rather than the stupid liberals even with someone else calling the shots ‘ the liberal politicians like reid ‘ pelose ‘ schumer ‘ feinstein and boxer have all proven they dont have a teaspoon of brain between all of them.

          • mldld

            amen !

          • No name nut case

            The Bushes don’t own all of the oil in Texas. Don’t know where you got that. Bush senior was originally from Maine! He was born with money. He got into the oil business after moving to Texas. George the lesser was born in Texas. About him being a coward, I have no idea, but I doubt that you would recognize a coward if he bloodied your nose. As far as Bush the lesser’s reign in the White House, I decided that I would never vote for another Bush under any circumstances. Not because they are so horrible, but because two is one too many from the same family. Just check out the crap caused by the Kennedy’s!!!!

          • patriot 86

            Yup when the repubs take back the senate in november watch barry throw the tantrum of all tantrums and show everyone just how incompetent he is to be a leader of anything .

          • DC&H

            YOU ARE A STONE COLD IDIOT!!!!! You must live on another planet if you can’t see what Obama is doing to this country. You better pay closer attention to
            What’s going on around you. People like you are part of the problem. Maybe you are a Isis wantabe!

          • reggie

            Nah, it’s too gutless to do anything like that. Who knows, it could be a female with 19 kids that we’re supporting.

          • bill

            if it’s at all possible that you even read anything

            here’s a little ditty from the liberal denver post. feel free to google any of the topics in the article.

            A liberal Denver Post Aurora Sentinel opinion piece by lifelong Democrat Chuck Green.

            It is time that we asked George Bush to step aside so that Obama can get his presidency going.

            Here’s an opinion piece by Chuck Green who writes “Greener Pastures” for the Denver Post Aurora Sentinel…one of the more liberal papers in the country. Additionally, Mr. Green is a lifelong Democrat…so this is rather a stunning piece…

            Obama is victim of Bush’s failed promises!

            Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his first term in office:

            Largest budget ever. Largest deficit ever. Largest number of broken promises ever.

            Most self-serving speeches ever. Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever. Fastest dive in popularity ever!

            Wow! Talk about change.

            Just three years ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the nation’s most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America ‘s first black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be gripped in self-imposed crisis.

            Of course, they don’t see it as self-imposed. It’s all George Bush’s fault !

            George Bush, who doesn’t have a vote in congress and who no longer occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to end earmarks.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to make peace with direct, no precondition talks with America ‘s most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to end no-compete contracts with the government.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to disclose the names of all attendees at closedWhite House meetings.

            He broke Obama’s promise, for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.

            He broke Obama’s promise, to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter.

            Yes, it’s all George Bush’s fault! President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed Bush administration.

            If only George Bush wasn’t still in charge, all of President Obama ‘s problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept, the economy would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel . North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have been restored to the federal government.

            Oh, and did I mention what it would be like, if the Democrats, under the previous leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, didn’t have the heavy yoke of George Bush around their necks? There would be no ear marks, no closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit spending, no special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying (Nebraska, Louisiana).

            If only George Bush wasn’t still in charge, we’d have real change by now.

            All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and delay (health care reform, immigration reform) is not President Obama ‘s fault or the fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress. It’s all George Bush’s fault !

            Take for example the decision of Eric Holder , the president’s attorney general, to hold terrorists’ trials in New York City. Or his decision to try the Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.

            Two disastrous decisions.

            Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from George Bush!

            Need more proof?

            You might recall that when Scott Brown won the election to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts, capturing “The Ted Kennedy Seat”, President Obama said, Brown’s victory was the result of the same voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People were still angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years. And they wanted change.

            Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion in Massachusetts , was George Bush’s fault.

            Therefore, in retaliation, they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy seat, ending a half-century of domination by Democrats. It is all George Bush ‘s fault !

            Will the failed administration of George Bush ever end, and the time for hope and and change ever arrive ???

            Will President Obama ever accept responsibility for something/anything?

          • DeeBar

            Bill , And that’s just a partial list !
            Do you ever just think that an idiot statement like Larry’s is just a come on to keep the flow of this blog . You wouldn’t think someone this stupid could really exist ! Oh , wait a second , they actually do exist but “most” aren’t liberals they are progressives or should I say Facists .

          • reggie

            The nice thing about trolls and fools is how much more I learn from the responses of real people. Bill’s piece is excellent, wasn’t aware of it, and I will use it in future references.

          • DeeBar

            I guess there is a reason for em’ . Gawd I hate saying that .

          • reggie

            Excellent piece, thank you.

          • fjoy

            Liberals always resort to LIES AND CURSE WORDS WHEN THE FACTS ARE AGAINST THEM.
            Larry how about being for our country and not a POLITICAL PARTY.
            No I forgot that you sycophants and your ideology cannot have any NORMAL THOUGHT PATTERNS.
            You and your ilk are incapable of CLEAR THOUGHTS WITH ANY
            LOGIC!!!!

          • Larry

            You and your ilk are incapable of CLEAR THOUGHTS WITH ANY
            LOGIC!!!! No one on here, has proving to me that this Pres. has brung any Destruction to the USA. POSTED Before: Just checking you out. Trying to see how sharp you are…you got it.
            And, yes, I was a Liberal for decades until Obama ran for office in 2007-2008 when I immediately became a Conservative. Knew then he was going to try to destroy our Nation, just didn’t know how bad he really was. (Where is it).

          • patriot 86

            You are a complete idiot’ so obama has done no harm to america ‘ what do you call obumblercare huh’ go tell the 10 million people who had insurance they liked and were dropped cuz their policy didnt measure up to the clown in chiefs standards’ go tell the families of the four americans who died in bengazi that obama never hurt america’ go tell the family of the DEA agent who died cuz of obamas fast and furious debacle he never hurt america ‘ oh but wait these are facts and you retarted liberal wastes of air only believe the crap that comes from barry os mouth right .

          • Larry

            You cannot be this lame to see that most of us Real Americans, have Insurance. The problem is you do not read for yourself. I can’t help you with that. The Koch Brothers got you by the BALLS. They don’t care about your sorry ass. They only care about their selfish ass, irrelevant view. Go and try to ask them if they care about you.

          • patriot 86

            Deny it all you want but its common knowledge that millions have had their policies cancelled because of the liar in chiefs signature trainwreck.

          • pat ange

            the only ones profiting from obamacare are the free loaders who never paid a dime of taxes. It has destroyed health insurance for everyone else. Harry Reis & Nancy PEE-lousey are bald face liars.Obama stold $817billion from medicare, taking away from those who paid all their life to give to leaches on society. Obama has never had a REAL JOB in his life.

          • patriot 86

            you are spot on ‘ obama never intended it to work from the get go ‘ he knew it would be a trainwreck and would ruin the healthcare systemso then it could be made into a one payer system [IE] socialism.This was his plan from the beginning and the stupid democrats who voted him in not once but twice fell for it .

          • patriot 86

            And he never will because hes the king of free loaders .look at his lavish vacations were all paying for.

          • patriot 86

            Oh yeah and your hero gives a rats ass about anyone huh.you really are retarted.

          • pat ange

            The Koch brother’s supply millions of US jobs.Their employees love them. They are true Patriotic Americans, supporting America. They aren’t the ones paying the democrats $500,000,000 to keep voting down the keystone pipeline, and stoping thousands of US jobs and lower gas prices for Americans..They support many wonderful charities. The only charity democrats support is themselves. The total lies about the Koch brothers are a product of harry reid’s brain rot. You libs just suck up democratic crap.

          • patriot 86

            All you retard libs do is bitch about the koch brothers ; its the koch brothers this and the koch brothers that ‘ shut up already and stop bitching about something you cant do anything about .Open your eyes and see the real enemy is the kenyan and all the dem or should I say dumb politicians in washington.

          • pat ange

            Nothing conservative about you. You have your head so far up obama’s butt there is no o2 going to your brain.

          • What’s Up?

            If you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr.
            Your health care premiums will come down.
            I will have the most transparent administration. etc.etc.

          • What’s Up?

            You are talking about Harry Reids’ Senate I presume?

          • Bible believer

            Larry, as a veteran, I think you and your half of the country should go fight Isis because after Obama became our Pres. Our country has been divided right down the middle. We couldn’t win a war now if we had to fight one. You people couldn’t love America for wanting to change us into a communist country. R u socialist motivated?

          • Larry

            And you vote with this, WOW. The Republican’ts are against you. They want to be PROUD, go fight. GO GO GO. Fight, fight, fight. Die die die, WTF kind of since does that make. If you come home hurt, what do they give you. How is the help for that PTSD, working for you.

          • No name nut case

            All you have to do is check out what he says. If his mouth is moving he is lying!

          • No name nut case

            Ex military men (who, by the way, fought to preserve your sorry ass) aren’t paid enough to support their families, you dumb prick! That is a result of your crony Dems! They send men and women overseas to die, but they don’t pay them enough to feed their families when they are at home OR when they are overseas trying not get killed!! There is nothing sorrier than your party members who have no more scruples than that! The Democrat party is as low the bottom of the ocean.

          • Larry

            Check yourself, I am a family member of Veterans. As I stated before that the Service Members are unfairly payed. I also will say this, because you can not seem to find anything for yourself. This President doesn’t want to put Troops on the ground, but yet you’re party for war wants to. And to put Icing on the Cake, no one on here is saying what he has LIED About. You just spuing selling points. Go figure.

          • pat ange

            The lies flow from obama’s mouth; AKA: LIAR IN CHEIF. Congress does their job, it just can’t get past brain-dead Harry Reid. As their bills pile up at the senate door, obama lies, guess he can’t see the pile.

          • pat ange

            I told many of them, I don’t have 2 weeks of time to keep on.

          • Bible believer

            You r n denial,Bamboo

          • Frederick Fargher

            OH YEA!!!

          • patriot 86

            Yup if his lips are moving hes lying ‘ take away his teleprompter and he couldnt put together a coherent thought.

          • No name nut case

            One can’t destroy something that was never there in the first place. I don’t think Larry has a clue and had a liberal education which taught him NOT to think! It is a lost art for anyone who didn’t have parents to guide them to ignore their America destroying public school teachers. You really can’t blame Larry. In the words of the immortal Maw Richards, “He can’t hep it.” And for Larry who probably doesn’t have a clue who she was, maybe he should look her up. They think alike.

          • M. MOLNAR

            Obama’s a liser. GET OVER IT! EVERYONE IN THE world including all the countries in Europe laugh at YOUR STUPIDITY when you elected him. I didn’t…you idiot libs elected the biggest fraud in the century. Try climbing out of your delusional box and see reality…he is a fraud who wants to screw our country. And the equal pay for women…no big deal. Women have been getting paid equal wages for a long time because they are smart…not brcause they are women. You are gender bending and it doesn’t look good on you.
            You need to do the research on obama…not his dem websites, but impartial sites because you are talking about a different man…not the snake in the oval snake den, but someone no one has heard of. You need help…see a doctor. Your delusion has spread to your brain…

          • Larry

            Wow, who sent you a tick to go on back, again the stocks are at a all time high. The rich people are getting more money than they probably can count, what Jobs have they created. And you indulge in this, sorry I have to hand it to you like this, you are the new N…. Now. I can send you your creditial, via Email.

          • M. MOLNAR

            Too bad you can’t write anything but trash. No one is interested in your crap fake facts. You are a army of one worshiping the devil’s spawn.

            No one expects you to understand the truth…you have been fed lies for so long you don’t know the difference. Have a nice life in your box if shame.

            You’re in a minority now and more and more people are realizing they were duped by this fraud. The worst thing of all is that bho is the biggest LIAR of ALL TIME. He has lied abt everything in his life and Americans now know it. You see, actions speak louder than words. He says he will do one thing (transparency) and then he does the opposite (actions/E.O.s behind closed doors).

            I detest liars! After his first lie, I was done with the lying fraud. You can talk til you are blue in the face, but you will never convince me he is trustworthy or honest, because he has proven otherwise. And the legal suit brought against bho by the House is going to expose his deception and lies…his true self will stand out and it won’t be pretty. You are now a small percentage of what remains of his devoted drones…clueless and pathetic. We’re done here. Ignorant is as ignorant does.

          • No name nut case

            You obviously don’t own any stock!

          • Nonne

            Wow, Larry, you truly ARE a socialist. Were you assigned to this website as the only pro-Obama blogger? Would you be willing to tell us who pays you to rant? The reason I ask this is because most people can LEARN when info is given to them, but no matter how many bloggers have ATTEMPTED to respond to you, you just continue down your same idealogical path. I say you are a STRAW blogger. You were selected to respond on this website with an opposing opinion, and you have no particular interest in the topic — just in being the one to refute conservative bloggers. Am I right? NO, you aren’t allowed to lie to me — unless, of course, you are a Muslim and you figure your blogs are furthering the cause of Islam.

          • bill

            i think larry just likes to stir the pot. i quote lib newspapers that attack Obuttranger in their op/ed pages on huffpost. just imagine the responses i get from that outlet. strangely enough huffpost over the last couple of years has been a LITTLE right of center as more and more libs are realizing what a fraud the LYING MUSLIM is.

          • fjoy

            Stocks are up ha ! If you were INTELLIGENT ENOUGH to understand why THEY ARE UP it would be laughable.
            Stocks UP BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HELD DOWN AND TOO MUCH PRINTING OF OUR DOLLARS.
            Is the dollar worth more. Hell no OBUMMER’S treasury keeps printing more money.
            Unemployment numbers down? Who supplies those numbers? LB who’s labor board why Obummer’s LB!
            It is plain for those people who have some form of intelligence to know that this
            President has all but turned this great country into a 3rd world country.
            Why don’t you leave and take your liar in chief with you.
            The only line that he
            can show is the yellow line down his back. He certainly cannot deal with any red line that he draws then erases.
            Coward in chief

          • patriot 86

            Well in larrys world stocks are high ‘ thats about the only place they are.

          • What’s Up?

            Stocks are not at their highest. I track mine every day. They are blue chip and are going nowhere.They were worth twice as much before Obama.

          • patriot 86

            Larry you are a true liberal ‘ completely blind to the truth and too stupid to go find it for yourself ‘ people like you are the reason obumbler got elected twice ‘ he counted on the stupid vote and it paid off bigtime.

          • Bible believer

            Larry what planet or rock did u come out from under or from. Mr. Stocksenstine you can’t tell an idiot not to be an idiot, it just comes natural.

          • patriot 86

            The problem with people like larry is these idiots pass their stupidity on to their kids which is why obumbler got elected not once but twice ‘UNBELIEVABLE.

          • Mr. Conservative

            Hey Larry, the Equal Pay Act, requiring equal pay for equal work, was signed into law by President Kennedy, you moron! Obama doesn’t even pay his female staff the same as their male counterparts! Those who have businesses are moving them to other countries to get away from the HIGHEST corporate taxes and over-regulation IN THE FREE WORLD! Have you not heard about Burger King moving to Canada? Maybe you should quit watching the Obama news network, MSNBC, for a couple of months and do a little of your own research! Or you could just keep drinking the kool-aid.

          • bob arnold

            bravo on your comments how true they are

          • DeeBar

            Thanks Conservative . This guy lets others do his thinking .

          • patriot 86

            Dont confuse larry with the facts cuz he only worships at the throne of obama which is probably his bathroom stool for this idiot.

          • reggie

            Larry, I’m so impressed. He was passing laws before he was born!!! Just like Al Gore invented the internet. 1957 – Equal Pay for Equal Work. 1963 – Equal Pay Act. You must consider welfare a job. More people are on welfare now than ever in the history of our country.

          • Frank W Brown

            Pull your head out of your ass and OPEN your eyes and look in ANY direction, you’ll see the destruction!
            BTW, try out spell check!

          • Frederick Fargher

            Oh, go bite a pig fart & inhale it in mid-air!!!

          • No name nut case

            That comment could only be a death blow insult if one is a Muslim! Muslims are deathly afraid of anything pork! Go eat a ham sandwich is a better one. Lol!

          • patriot 86

            Good one ‘ gotta remember that .

          • Scott Figgins

            Umm Larry you dumb-ass ,Let me quote actual race-baiting “If I had a son he would look like Trayvon” Go back to your libtard blog site idiot! That was just the beginning of his race-baiting ,,Let’s see here lol He sent 3 White House reps to Michael Browns funeral but didn’t send a single one to Maj. General Harold J. Greene’s funeral (the highest ranking fatality since Vietnam ).Big O’s priorities are all screwed up ,that is unless he’s doing exactly as planned ,,bingo !lol Pull your head out of your butt and get a clue!

          • bill

            lets not stop talking about Benghazi either . the LYING MUSLIM called and congratulated a gay black basketball player for coming out and ignored the attack on our embassy personnel in benghazi allowing them to be killed by islamics who were “incensed by a movie”. which he finally admitted was “misinformed” by his staff there by passing the blame.

          • No name nut case

            You sir, or madam need to get a better grasp on the English language.

          • CTH

            That is not all he/she needs to get a grasp on.

          • No name nut case

            You are trying really hard to blame anyone other than Obama for the mess! I think you are the one who has a problem with understanding!

          • Cynic

            What nonsense. It’s only you liberals who see nothing but race and gender.

            Obama has circumvented the Constitution. Rather than try to work with Congress, he has circumvented them by issuing his executive orders. The president does not create legislation. He cannot legislate from the Oval Office.

            He has passed “Equal Pay for Women”? He’s the president! He shouldn’t be “passing” anything. Don’t you know a damn thing about the Constitution? Don’t you respect the checks and balances that are supposed to operate between all three branches. Well, of course you don’t. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be trolling here.

          • Wingedgodd3ss

            Yeah he passed equal pay for women yet he pays women less than men in his administration. Wake up. What has he done to hurt this country? She states that are enforcing immigration laws already enacted. Play almost as much golf as tiger woods. Thwart our constitution every chance he gets. Benghazi. Fast and furious. Open borders. It’s targeting conservative groups. Spying on Americans. Get a clue.

          • patriot 86

            I already stated many of those above but larry aint buying it cuz hes got his own facts ‘ Whatever obama says HAHAHA LOL.

          • P Grace

            Amen. I think if the Tea Party people here would simply read their own posts over and over again, maybe five times, at the end they would just throw up. All that bile. Poison. Starts to infect your entire physical, emotional and spiritual system.
            Have never seen so much pure hatred poured out on one president in my lifetime, though there was plenty of hatred of JFK, Carter, Nixon, and Bush II.
            Imagine if Obama had started the Iraq War, lost three trillion dollars to the war, started torturing prisoners, tanked the U.S. economy, sent the stock market plummeting down to 6500 and unemployment up around 10.5….. Can you imagine the vitriol we would have seen then???
            Of course since his tenure has corresponded with a 34 per cent reduction in the federal deficit, a drop in unemployment down to 6.3, stock market through the roof, quadrupling of domestic oil production, well, all the vitriol is because “he’s a Muslim, he hates this country, he’s for amnesty for illegal immigrants,” etc.
            Tea Partyers are going to end up making themselves ill from their own vitriol if you all just keep it up.
            John Patrick Grace
            Huntington, WEst Virginia

          • What are you, Larry’s backup? Why should anyone like a fraud, liar and murderer? Why should anyone like a traitor who is purposely ruining our great nation? He is no way in the same league as any other president in history,,,they were all Americans and did their best to build the American Dream and maintain our exceptional reputation. Maybe we hate the Kenyan usurper as much as he hates America, if that’s possible.

          • patriot 86

            No doubt ‘ these kind of assholes are whats wrong with this country.

          • DeeBar

            You’ve got to be kidding . Have you seen the deficit ? Is it going down ? A drop in unemployment ? Not when you count those that are not looking for work anymore and are off the rolls .
            You remember Dodd-Frank don’t ya ? They are the ones who created all the bad loans that crashed the market .
            He didn’t quadruple the oil . The private sector did against his wishes .
            And if you don’t think he’s for amnesty you are absolutely nuts . Just wait !

          • patriot 86

            No sense talking to that idiot ‘ they are a special blend of stupid liberal.

          • DeeBar

            Yeah and I’m done , waste of time . Gotta go clean a gun !

          • patriot 86

            what freakin planet are you living on ‘ the deficit is 17 trillion and climbing ‘ your boy the muslum has spent more than all the previous presidents combined ‘ hes trashed the health care system and you have the gall to blame this all on someone else ‘ you are truly stupid in the extreme ‘ do the world a favor and have yourself fixed so you cant reproduce and bring more ignorant idiots into this world ‘ we have enough low IQ democrats as it is .WOW

          • CTH

            Larry : Either a damn fool or drunk on koolade. Maybe both.

          • Psjlt

            Larry, Larry, Larry….tsk, tsk, tsk. You obviously received a typical liberal education. What a shame; you not only wear blinders, but your liberal educators failed miserably in their task of imparting proper grammer to your tiny mind. Typical, yet pitiful.

          • bill

            dear larry the kneeler
            quote from your rant
            “show me some comparisons, to your so-called facts.”
            here’s a few. you should do the same to back your claims

            google these . all appointed by the

            LYING MUSLIM

            Arif Alikhan,Mohammed Elibiary,Rashad Hussain

            Salam al-Marayati, Imam Mohamed Magid, Eboo Patel

            google these also

            First

            President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for

            $102,000 a year at taxpayer

            expense.

            First

            President to repeat the Holy Qur’an and tells us

            that the early morning Islamic

            call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.

          • bob arnold

            bull, Kennedy passed the equal pay for woman doing the same job and Obama does not pay the staff at the white house equal, check on that

          • What’s Up?

            Have you seen a psychiatrist?

          • DeeBar

            Before day one I was against this criminal . Did you ever do your homework ? He did nothing in the Senate except vote present . While he was in the Illinois Senate he voted for infanticide . But like most of your ilk you have no idea of his background . Being in cahoots with Acorn should have told you something but you probably dismiss that too .
            The Republican Congress hasn’t done their jobs yet have over 300 bills and most passed with bipartisan votes will not even be heard or held to a vote by your man Reid .
            Equal pay for women ? How come his own gals in the wh are being paid less than their male counter parts ?
            And it’s sickening to think that anyone other than Keith Oberman , Cris Mathews and NBC would think that it’s the R’s creating the racial divide . You are way out of line and haven’t done your homework . Prove your statements or shut the F up . And I’m not even a republican .

          • Larry

            Wow, Acorn and you went there.
            Trying to figure out why you people on here, can not read for yourself. Okay listen to the Right Wing Pondents, look it up to see if it’s true before you rant and cry like babies. Look up Acorn and read for yourself. As for their 300 Bills, most of them are for the short term. The Pipeline for example! Canada has already stated, that the long term Jobs will be for 100+ Canadians. (Obama is destroying our Country) you keep saying. Your damn Congress that you are so much in love with, is the one’s that will put US ALL in Welfare Lines. I will ask this damn question again, for all of you. WHERE IS ALL THE DESTRUCTION.

          • DeeBar

            Have you read the so called short term bills ? If you have you’ve got it over the rest of the Senate , you’re quite a guy . Acorn ? Look what up ? How many were tried in a court of law ?
            The Pipeline will hire about 35-40 thousand plus the support of the business’s . Seems to me that’s a lot of dollars even if short time . Look at refineries , takes about 5000 but hire about 600 full time . You don’t get it ! That’s the construction business and how it works . I had a Marina Const. business and my crew was 20-40 depending on the size and deadline of the job plus suppliers . Where I bought the floats they had about 60 working for them . It took about 10 full time to run the marina . If you don’t know business you wouldn’t understand this , especially construction .
            I had a fishing business in AK for 30 years and that supported perhaps 200 people but was only for 4 months (short term) . I also own two business’s now in my retired years to help support my lifestyle but don’t have to have them and support more people (both short term) . That’s capitalism , one job begets another .
            Ocrap is destroying Capitalism by taxing them to death and that’s something you obviously don’t understand . Look who he has for advisers and only 8 have owned a business and only 3 have been hands on .
            One of my business’s is as a Rancher and he wants to cut off my water . He has already cut our cattle production from over a half million to less than 2 hundred thousand in our state alone and it’s that way nation wide because of his EPA and DoE . Do you wonder even why ? Didn’t think so . And one of the reasons for the assault on the Bundy Ranch , the last of 53 ranchers in Nevada . Still you haven’t figured it out ? Thought so and you don’t even know why this took place . Get your head out your Presidents a$$ and learn the truth . Some of us have to live it , you obviously don’t .
            Our working stiffs have less money now than when this jerk took office and it doesn’t take an Einstein to figure out why if you’ll only look .
            I don’t much care for Republicans but I absolutely hate Progressives or Facist’s but then there isn’t much difference between the two if any .

          • patriot 86

            iF YOUR UNWILLING TO EVEN LISTEN TO THE EXAMPLES WEVE GIVEN YOU STOP WASTING EVERYONES TIME WITH YOUR STUPID INFANTILE RESPONSES ‘ EVERYONE CAN SEE YOU DONT WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH ‘ YOU ONLY WANT TO PISS AND MOAN AND BLAME EVERYONE BUT YOUR LORD ANS SAVIOR SO PLEEEAAAASSSSEEEEE JUST SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.

          • patriot 86

            Your second sentence said all we need to know about you ‘blind ‘ ignorant and stupid ‘ thats a scary combination even for a libtard.

          • No name nut case

            Hey someone who obviously doesn’t understand a single word of the bible shouldn’t be throwing bombs. In case you didn’t understand that sentence, I was referring to you Larry. Another thing while I’m at it. You are supporting the biggest liar that has ever been in office. He is also a Muslim! Look at the way he had the Oval Office decorated after he took office. I’ve never seen anything so Muslim out side of Iraq!

          • pat ange

            Ah, STUPIDITY IS BLISS. Obama’s top thing during his tenure is promoting HOMOSEXUALITY. Wants to make sure it’s legal “to do his thing”.

          • pat ange

            You may be right about the number. Making the world HOMOSEXUAL was on the top of his list. Tell 1 REAL way that FOX started Race Bateing. None of your constant fiction & habitual liberal lies.

          • CintiCB

            One of, or THE, main thing he has done is severely hinder any chance for another black to be elected as president, no matter how un-en the black is. Unfortunately, many,VERY MANY, have said that they wouldn’t vote for Dr. B. Carson “because he’s black.” I, always, say that Dr. B. C. has ABSOLUTELY no ****** in him!!! Their responses seem to, ALWAYS, include the rabid, untamed, uncivilized tribal behavior of the ****** level blacks. That these ‘victims’ seem to think that having a black president is, basically, permission to do whatever they want to do. I can see this aspect (permission to act the ******) EVERY TIME I watch the news!!!

          • ronald foster

            Reply to M. Molnar. Not long ago I became a conservative myself. I voted for the president in 2008, but didnt in 2012.

          • M. MOLNAR

            It’s never too late to wake up and see the light. Congrats! Great minds think alike. Now if we could only reach yhe rest of yhe lost liberal souls out there…we can try!

          • No name nut case

            Glad that you woke up to the truth. Walk into the light….

          • ronald foster

            Thats just what I’m doing is walking into the light and at this point I’ve long woken up to the truth.

          • pat ange

            My dad always told me “never waste a mistake by not learning from it” Good job!

          • pat ange

            Many Americans wanted to prove that America is not a RACIS Nation. A Black man’s election proved that. Little did people know that it , was his HEART that was BLACK and he has no soul. For beliving, we ended up with the worlds biggest RACIST. He has race baited us back 50 years in race relations. Sad part, he cares nothing about black people; just used them gave them empty promises.

          • ronald foster

            People should be judged by character, not by color, race or anything of that sort.

          • reggie

            You decide – exam in er (dot) com, Aug 28. Art ic le by Vi cky Nis sen

          • M. MOLNAR

            Read the article but have done in depth research on the muslim fraud previously. When obama bowed down to the Saudi king in front of world cameras, I knew he was NOT the Christian he claimed to be but a muslim in drag pretending to be Christian. Then when he gave one if his first news meetings from the White House, he was standing in front of some gaudy ornate muslim tapestry instead of our U.S. flag like all previous Presidents did. But besides those two defining things I was privy to a magazine article written in a Scientific magazine you don’t usually find in a doctor’s office. The article was about a youngish Black man who was throwing his hat in the Presidential campaign and his name was Barack Hussein Obama. I knew nothing abt him nor any of the candidates so I read.

            What absolutely amazed me was that the journalist had interviewed barack’s birth town and it wasn’t Hawaii as obaia lied about. Guess where he was born. Mombasso, KenyC. The midwife that delivered obama was interviewed along with his grandmother who was smiling and excited. The Village Chief was also interviewed and he was so proud that one of their brothers could be president of America. There were pictures of the whole village waving and smiling…everyone happy.

            Then I realized one thing. How could barack run for president when he wasn’t a natural cutizen? There must of been some kind of research into his background before they let him run. But nothing happened…he ran and was elected.
            So I know obama is a fake composite of a man, all made up, all lies to convince Americans he is the real deal so they would elect him…he is not. No one has found any documents of his college transcripts nor anything from Harvard and his poorly constructed computerized birth certificate I could have made on PhotiShop…and that was declared a fake by computer software experts.

            The latest thing is they are now saying Michelle is actually a “Michael” –a transgender, a guy that wants to be a girl and a doctor has a video on UTube describing the physical body construction differences between a male and females and Michelle falls in the male category. She is really a “He” which makes more sense because obama is gay and why would he want a women in bed with him when he can have a guy pretending to be a woman. As for the girls, neither of them resemble either obama or “Michael”.

            So when you gave me that article, I was already convinced barry soetero is 100 percent fraud and no one is ever going to convince me otherwise…especually any liberal tweaks on this blog.

            Thanks for the article. It just gives me more fuel for the muslim fraud fire. Any suggestions as to what to do with the brain dead libs that think this fake is real? Gather them together and drop obama and them back in the jungles of Kenya!

          • reggie

            You’re welcome. My RN cousin lives in HI. Her private doctor was Chiyome Fukino, MD., who later became head of the Dept of Health, and who ‘verified’ the birth. Her best friend (now deceased) was a very elegant, talented black woman who worked at Kapiolani Hospital, where Obama was supposedly born. NOT! Then the half sister said he was born at Queen’s Hospital. Born in 2 places? Three places? Impressive. There apparently are no microfiche records at either hospital. I won’t go into it, but the HI politics will do you in if you don’t comply.

          • No name nut case

            Well said. Most people in this country have apparently forgotten about all of this stuff. I recall seeing a photo of Obama as a young boy in Kenya. Does anyone else remember this?

          • Dana Lefey Muave

            Okay people, we are falling for it again. We are allowing a political tyrannical entity to put fear and hatred between us so that we fight like children while they take our country away from us! DONT YOU GET IT?? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO! FIGHT UMONGST OUR SELVES SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE US FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE WHILE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!
            Please open your fu***** eyes and see them for what they are before it is too late and EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US ends up slave, servant, a beaten people. UNITE AS W E T H E P E O P L E! GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH! FOR THOSE WHO TRADE SECURITY FOR LIBERTY DESERVE NEITHER! These are statements and quotes from our founding fathers, did you think they were kidding???

          • No name nut case

            What Obama wants more than anything on earth is to start another Civil war! He fully intends to do something even Hitler couldn’t pull off with the Jews. He literally hates white Americans enough to wipe them out!

          • patriot 86

            Let him come and try cuz he will pay dearly trying I know that much.

          • No name nut case

            You answered your own question. He does want exactly that. What else can one expect from a member of our nation’s worst enemies? Obama is a Muslim and his loyalties lie with the Muslims!

          • Nonne

            That was well written, M. Molnar. Many of us have wondered the same as you and have tried to convince people whose lives we CARED about that King BO would be bad for America. But, as you discovered, libs tend to not listen. I have come to believe the libs have an IDEALOGY that drives them, not logic. I even tried to see if all my ‘Oblamer supporters’ could possibly be the same sort of folks, though they came from different backgrounds. No, I couldn’t lump them all together — but two kinds of people do tend to support lib causes: First are the ones who are on the RECEIVING end of the benefits that the ‘ELITE’ libs WANT them to have. This makes the ‘elites’ feel good to GIVE, and the welfare-types feel EXCELLENT to RECEIVE. It’s we poor squeezed taxpayers caught in the middle, paying for the goodies with our income tax, that causes us to loathe Oblamer and his Libturd ilk.

          • pat ange

            Do you really believe any Patriot American or any conservative whould use the names of Osama Obama?..Osama has been in hell from 2006 when he really died, & and Obama has sealed tight reservations.

          • M. MOLNAR

            After blogging on several other websites abt obama and ISIS the day I enterd this blog, seeing that name stopped me in my tracks. Guess we can get “overkill” on the obama terrorist world. But after reading the comments I knew we were on the “same page” and share common views…like what you said here — I so agree!!

          • AllanGardnerMiles

            M. Molnar: Your life experiences and mine coincide greatly. I could see what was coming when I first saw that foreign name. And as you say it was not a racial issue but of eligibility requirements as written into Our Constitution. When my gut feeling really gets into a rampage it has always been correct. Besides not likely meeting eligibility requirements I felt really bad and evil vibrations from his campaign speeches and my hunches so to speak have proven to be correct.. I also quickly realized my fears were turning into reality. Now all we can do is hope the Tide will turn in America’s favor before serious disasters occur. When the FRAUD is gone hopefully we can rebuild quickly and efficiently to our proper status within the world.

          • M. MOLNAR

            Allan, It is so nice to see that someone out there has knee jerk reactions to things that are totally wrong and evil. It’s good to know someone besides me is physically affected when a situation is radically wrong. Thank you for relaying that to me.

            Below is a little background history that directed me to where I stand today:
            This all started mid 2007 when I read an article in a scientific magazine (not normally found in a reception room) in a doctor’s reception room about a new Black candidate running for President.The article was well written and I was curious about a Black who wanted to be our President. The article was a composite of interviews of obama’s midwife who delivered him, his grandmother, and the Chieftain of the village he was born in. It also had the Village Elders’s thoughts about a young Black man from their village who could be President of the U.S. They were ecstatic! There were pictures along with the interviews. The village where this all took place wasn’t Honolulu Hawaii as obama fictitiously claims, but Mombasso, Kenya…obama’s REAL birth place — which makes him UNELIGIBLE to be our President.

            I wrote and emailed several News Stations asking what was their take on this info…no replies. I started blogging in 2007 that the man PRETENDING TO BE AN AMERICAN IS REALLY A KENYAN and my blogs unleashed a hail storm of insults and Racist name calling from Liberals all over the place. You see, he was their very own dream of going down in history as the Party who elected the first Black president. Only now, he will be remembered as the FIRST worst, most unethical, Constitution stomping Black president and their Party as the most ignorant, non truth seeking Political Party of our U.S. History. They should be ashamed for their careless, inappropriate acts against our Country.

            Needless to say, I have been blogging since 2007 against this illegal fraud in our White House, but in 2008 during his acceptance speech, something bizarre happened to me signaling that there was going to be not only a Black man in our Presidency, but an evil entity residing inside of him. It began the night I turned on his Acceptance Speech on TV after the election. As he began talking, my stomach started feeling sick like the flu, then the achy feeling began. The longer he spoke, the sicker I got until I finally turned off the TV and ran for the bathroom because I knew I was going to throw up — only to discover that the sickness had stopped as soon as I turned off the TV. No more words from obama…no more sickness!

            Here’s a little background on me. I am an “Emotive” which means I am sensitive (can feel physically) to other people’s intentions, be they good or bad. In fact I can read them so well that my employer of a large luxury dealership relied entirely on my opinions about any new prospects to hire. I never got it wrong. The one time the dealership decided to “not” take my opinion about a new hire, he stole thousands of dollars and numerous luxury car parts from their Parts Dept. They never doubted me again.

            The night of obama’s acceptance speech was very telling for me. If I could feel his evil intentions and know that he was lying about “helping” our country, across the miles (he being in Washington D.C. and me being in California) and through the TV, then I knew our County was in peril.

            And here we are…(1) fighting his UnConstitutional legislation, (2) watching him appoint numerous Muslim people to his cabinet, (3) watching him ignore our 4 Americans in Benghazi that died very grisly and torturous deaths, (4) watching as Lois Lerner put the Conservative Parties in her gun sites for the IRS, (5) watching as the Justice Dept gave the Drug Cartels in Mexico loads of semi automatic rifles for whatever the reason, it was stupid and irresponsible killing one of our border Guards with one of those rifles(this was proven), (6) watching as obama pursues Gay rights (because he is gay…proven by earlier encounters with older men who have come forward), (7) watching as he promotes murdering babies in the womb (abortion) at “ANY” time up to just before birth (9 months old, very much alive and very much a human baby), and lastly, (8) watching him desecrate our Christian Christmas traditions in the White House by removing anything resembling the birth of Christ or denoting a Christian significance — then inviting 1000s of Muslims to join him on the White House Lawn to celebrate Ramadan. I knew when I say the footage of bho bowing in subjugation before the Saudi King early in his first term, that he was a blaring Muslim, and had lied profusely about being a Christian.

            Then I started counting the lies he had propagated. Almost every last act he has performed was based on his lies…his fake birth certificate (disproven as original by numerous software computer technicians); his fake marriage to a transgender man who wants to be a woman instead of the male he was born as (this all hails back to bho being Gay); his “LACK OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS SUCH AS TRANSCRIPTS FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY OR HARVARD LAW SCHOOL — perhaps because he never graduated nor received a law degree from these institutions…more hype by the Grand Puppet Master directing obama. I would normally have agreed that perhaps he did attend, but WHY doesn’t he release the documents to the public to show he isn’t lying…because he IS lying and there are no documents. He is hiding the real truth…he is a COMPLETE AND TOTAL FRAUD. Many liberals will come flying back blogging there are people who came forward saying he was at those institutions and that he held an editorial position on the College Campus Paper. Still a bunch of crap, because if he had actually been an editor, his picture would have been in their annual…no editor would ever leave his own picture out of the College Annual because it denotes prestige. But there are none. He is nothing more than a composite put together to look like the good ole Christian American family man…all lies, all manipulations of a very gullible and biasly confused Democratic Party so they would push for his election — and drink of his poisonous kool aid.

            My gut feeling, and your gut feeling, and many others who are afraid to come forward, were all telling us that obomba (my name for him because he is a bomb waiting to explode all over Americans) is a fraud and a criminal manipulator intent on collapsing our economic system and rendering America incapable of protecting herself or her lands. If you look at obama today, he has aged 20 years in the time he has been president…graying to white hair, lines on his face, walking with less bounce in his step…a worn out tired old man who would rather be on the golf course than deal with America’s issues. I’m sure the Lawsuit by the House of Reps has something to do with his physical appearance because he knows that he has lied and that he has tried to hurt America, but our Checks and Balances system caught him in its jaws. What I sincerely hope is that in the Houses’ prosecutors research against obama, documents surface that incriminate him for TREASON beyond a doubt and that Impeachment proceedings are begun. The House is where Impeachment is initiated, we only need the Senate’s approval to remove him physically from Office — that’s stated in our U.S. Constitution.. Pray that documents surface to condemn this evil man to a life full of prison…Michelle (aka Michael) can get an adjoining cell.
            FYI: Joan Rivers, a comedian in the 80’s and a supporter of gay marriages, told a News Crew (about three weeks ago) when he asked her if America would ever have a Gay President…she retorted, “We already do” and then she further stated that “Michelle was a Transgender”…out loud, in public in view of numerous News organizations. Then suddenly a few weeks later she stops breathing during a standard procedure performed inside a doctor’s office? Then is transported to a hospital where she becomes worse and eventually died yesterday? Why is it that my gut is telling me she “had some help” dying? Because this administration is full of so much corruption, lies and illegal acts? You betcha. Joan Rivers let the public know that Obama is GAY and his supposed female wife is actually a man pretending to be a female…how convenient and, at the same time, condemning for bho. And, because of her honesty to the American people, her life was ended earlier than it should have been. Someone caused her to die so she wouldn’t give any more information about the lie that is REALLY HAPPENING IN THE WHITE HOUSE! Unacceptable…God should open up a huge HOLE in Washington D.C. on Philadelphia Avenue, beside the White House and swallow up every last demonatic devoted to the Usurper of our Country and spit them down into the bowels of Hell. That’s where they came from, that’s where they belong!

            Sorry for the Novel Allan. Tell me what other things your GUT has exposed for you. We already know how obama affected you. Anyone else? Any suggestions as to what we can do as Conservatives trying to stay afloat in a sea of delusion and corruption from the Liberal party? We need all the help we can get. Praying helps because God is aware of what is happening…

          • Dick Delson

            George W. fucked us up.

          • 1lived666

            Your language speaks for itself O. O. and to your abilities…or should we more correctly say, “lack thereof”! I will give you a B+ in prevarications, as is due most Tea Party puppets, and, as usual, an A for the telling of “out-and-out” lies.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Who are “we”, you and your stooge comrades.? Lies? What lies, Obama leg huncher? When I posted Kennedys killing people, Biden and Ohussein outing SEALs Team 6? Let’s list all of the scandals you vermin would have shat your pants over if done by a Repub.

          • What lies? List them or bring in a different troll.

          • 1lived666

            Read the facts about this report and learn (“The sign of the correlation indicates that science comprehension decreases as political outlooks move in the rightward direction…”):

            Tea Party Supporters And Scientific Literacy

            18th October 2013 Collin Maessen

            On social media there’s never a dull moment with all the interesting and fun things that are shared on it. Also never a shortage of misinformation that’s being bounced around in your preferred ideological echo chamber.

            The latest example of this was a tweet by Marc Morano that said “Yale Professor ‘Embarrassed’ to Discover Tea Party Members are Scientifically Literate” and linked to an article on CNS News (archived here):

            You know that line liberals love to lob at the Tea Party: you’re stupid. Well, obviously that’s not the case, nor has it ever been true. Now, a Yale professor has released some new research showing that the so-called “Tea Party radicals” are actually scientifically literate.

            Professor Dan M. Kahan of the psychology department at Yale says he was surprised to discover a positive correlation between science comprehension and members of the Tea Party:

            “Identifying with the Tea Party correlates positively (r = 0.05, p = 0.05) with scores on the science comprehension measure.”

            “I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension.”

            […]

            “I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”

            […]

            Well, perhaps some of those previous opinions could’ve been dispelled earlier when the New York Times wrote in 2010 that Tea Partiers are more educated – and financially better off – than the rest of the public.

            The problem with how the author of this paper is quoted is that it misrepresents his point. What he’s surprised about is that Tea Party supporters according to his data are scientific literate. But he also says this in the same blog post:

            In this dataset, I found that there is a small correlation (r = -0.05, p = 0.03) between the science comprehension measure and a left-right political outlook measure, Conservrepub, which aggregates liberal-conservative ideology and party self-identification. The sign of the correlation indicates that science comprehension decreases as political outlooks move in the rightward direction–i.e., the more “liberal” and “Democrat,” the more science comprehending.

            Do you think this helps explain conflicts over climate change or other forms of decision-relevant science? I don’t.

            But if you do, then maybe you’ll find this interesting. The dataset happened to have an item in it that asked respondents if they considered themselves “part of the Tea Party movement.” Nineteen percent said yes.

            It turns out that there is about as strong a correlation between scores on the science comprehension scale and identifying with the Tea Party as there is between scores on the science comprehension scale and Conservrepub.

            Except that it has the opposite sign: that is, identifying with the Tea Party correlates positively (r = 0.05,p = 0.05) with scores on the science comprehension measure.

            Again, the relationship is trivially small, and can’t possibly be contributing in any way to the ferocious conflicts over decision-relevant science that we are experiencing.

            What he’s talking about is the disconnect between what the scientific literature says on a subject and how people act towards it in the context of politics. The author, Dan Kahan, originally thought that this disconnect also translated to scientific literacy. But it doesn’t, and it’s something I’ve known for years.

            You can talk about a lot science subjects with climate science deniers, I’ve had some very fun and interesting exchanges. Those that reject valid climate research have no problem accepting and understanding other scientific findings. And most of the people I interact with have the necessary education to understand these subjects.

            The problem arises when scientific findings clash with political positions. In the case of climate science deniers it’s when you start talking about the environment, especially in the context of human caused global warming. That’s when people who are perfectly rational and are scientific literates suddenly reject valid scientific findings. This is what can make someone appear “stupid” when they aren’t.

            It doesn’t matter how trivial it is, often they will outright reject anything that contradicts their position. Which makes it extremely difficult to have a factual based discussion with a climate science denier. This behaviour doesn’t stem from not understanding science, but it’s their ideological mental armour that’s preventing them from accepting valid scientific findings.

            I wrote quite a bit about this in my blog post ‘The Ideological Armour Of ‘Climate Sceptics’‘ and how this manifests itself. It’s a very interesting and relevant subject in the context of science communication.

            But here’s where it gets really interesting. The data the author used for his change of mind about the scientific literacy of Tea Party supporters is the same data he used for his paper ‘Ideology, Motivated Reasoning, and Cognitive Reflection: An Experimental Study‘. This is what it says in the abstract (there’s more in the paper itself which is interesting, emphasis mine):

            Social psychologists have identified various plausible sources of ideological polarization over climate change, gun violence, national security, and like societal risks. This paper describes a study of three of them: the predominance of heuristic-driven information processing by members of the public; ideologically motivated cognition; and personality-trait correlates of political conservativism. The results of the study suggest reason to doubt two common surmises about how these dynamics interact. First, the study presents both observational and experimental data inconsistent with the hypothesis that political conservatism is distinctively associated with closed-mindedness: conservatives did no better or worse than liberals on an objective measure of cognitive reflection; and more importantly, both demonstrated the same unconscious tendency to fit assessments of empirical evidence to their ideological predispositions. Second, the study suggests that this form of bias is not a consequence of overreliance on heuristic or intuitive forms of reasoning; on the contrary, subjects who scored highest in cognitive reflection were the most likely to display ideologically motivated cognition. These findings corroborated the hypotheses of a third theory, which identifies motivated cognition as a form of information processing that rationally promotes individuals’ interests in forming and maintaining beliefs that signify their loyalty to important affinity groups. The paper discusses the normative significance of these findings, including the need to develop science communication strategies that shield policy-relevant facts from the influences that turn them into divisive symbols of identity.

            What this paper found is that the better you are at applying reasoning skills you are more skilled at motivated reasoning. Meaning you use your reasoning skills to maintain a position that is not supported by evidence. Anyone who has ever interacted with science deniers will instantly recognize this.

            Which also makes the CNS News article a fine example of motivated reasoning that maintains the illusion that the Tea Party has positions on science that are correct.

            Categories: Politics and Policy

        • omegaman

          Molnar — HUH? What are you referring to?

          • M. MOLNAR

            Discussing what Osama obama said. Just wanted him to know that I am definitely NOT a Liberal and haven’t been since 2007…e.g. a little history about my time blogging against obama’s presidency. I know I confused him by my first,questionable blog to him, but that was to figure out who he really was. His name is very confusing for a Conservative blog site don’t you think? But we are good now. Thanks for your inquiry.

            All that I said above is true…every last word. I predicted obama would turn Americans against Americans, race against race…he has. Also, I said he would promote agendas that were against our Values and traditions, like gay rights, removing God from our Govt. Bldgs, (Christmas with the obamas in the White House has NO Christian Natavity scenes or figures and NOTHING related to our Christian God is allowed inside the White House during the Christmas Holidays — yet obama invited thousands of Muslims to join him on the White House Lawn to celebrate Ramadan a Muslim Holiday) and money. He has coined a quarter that no longer has God’s name on it; he has pushed for abortion and the abortionists changed it up to include “at any time during pregnancy” (that means from conception to just before birth a baby can be killed); He has pushed for Prayer to be removed from our Military before they go on manuevers (I believe the Chaplains ignore this one) and that NO College or University can say a prayer during their Commencement Exercises. He has consistenly tried to remove our Christian GOD from our existence. These are just the Values and Traditions he has changed.

            I also predicted he would put our Country in danger from outside forces, possibly by shrinking our Military…which he did in the beginning of 2012. We lost some very high ranking Officers either by resigning (because they did not agree with obama’s ideas about our Military) or by him firing them. What I didn’t know was that he would leave our borders exposed and open to actually let the terrorists walk right into our Nation.

            I also predicted he would try to change our Constitution by amending our Laws and Bill of
            Rights. This he has tried, but so far the public is too outraged for him to go forward. Obama’s weakness is shown when he tries to get the United Nations to control our Guns by drafting a Small Arms Treaty. No American is going to go for that…yet he keeps on trying to make that happen.

            He has tried to fundamentally change our entire Country by attacking our values and traditions and when that didn’t work, he drafted obamaCAUSTICcare to get rid of the Seniors and sick people. Believe me when I tell you it has the Death Panels inside obamacare that will decide whether or not a person 72 years or older has the right to extended care or will just be kept comfortable until they die. It is there! I copied it off the Internet when it was first introduced and I found that section. It does exist. So when the Libs say there is no such thing, consider they are blooming stupid, they are blatantly lying or they never read the Mandate.

            So now that the Mandate is slowly being dissected by our Federal Courts, obama is realizing his namesake isn’t doing the job he wanted to exploit and financially destroy our Nation, so why not invite millions of people from South america to come live with us. That should do the job of financially destroying our Nation. And here we are…

            That is some of what I predicted would happen if he became president. Most of it came true. Yet many people refuse to see that he is doing this on purpose to hurt our country, not to help us, but to level us to other countries financial states. He is a tweaked Socialist and all his legislation and policies have been to make America a Socialistic Nation. How’s that working for you? If you want to talk to obama, call his cell. He’s out on the back nine holes.

          • No name nut case

            I think you are too nice about obum. He is definitely destroying our nation! He absolutely hates America and Americans.

          • Larry

            I’m going to say this again and again, your Republicant’s so-called friends of yours are the ones that keep pushing for that. Again do your damn homework.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            For what ?

          • Larry

            For your on self, the Republican’ts may have a answer for you if you can not read.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            “For your on self”?? Republican’ts??? Poor, Poor downtrodden Larry. How’s Curly and Moe??

          • Larry

            Come with Real Facts, or just keep it to yourself.
            This may be a good place for you to Bitch, but you and your Friends need to READ on the facts. NOT listening to PONDENTS. You now know my E-Mail Address, if there is real talk from you ALL, maybe we can have some real discussions about things. And agree to disagree on some things.
            FYI…. Church and State are Separate, or have Forgotten about OUR FOR FOUNDERS……………………….

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Dang Larry, sober up and get back to us.

          • Tell us what the “Real Facts” are, Larry.

          • Ricky J

            Molar , I found this a while ago on a blog on Yahoo and thought you would enjoy it. I did not write it , just did the cut & paste thing so all you liberals don’t blame me for the spelling .

            Obama is my Shepherd ; I shall not work
            He maketh me drive on in green vehicles
            He leadeth me beside the still factories
            He restoreth my phone
            He leadeth me in the path of idleness for his owne name sake
            Yea , though I walk through the valley of transfer of wealth
            I will fear no weevil’s ; unless they are endangerd
            Thy rod and thy staff impale the free
            Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of people who actually produce
            Thou annointeth my bread with jelly
            ; my pipe smoketh over
            Surly rebates and earned income credits shall sustain me all the days of my life and I will dwell in a house , paid for by
            others , forever

          • Bible believer

            Amen

          • No name nut case

            Hey, I thought I was the only one who noticed all of that. I’m glad I wasn’t. Thank you for making me believe in the intelligence of my fellow Americans again! But, are we the only ones?

      • Canistercook

        Well the Democrats are pushing the ‘War on women’ I guess so they hope so!

    • hora

      It what I was said for long time, one time I was read liberals are more smart, well in his imagination, what show are a perfect criminals hate idiot. Many peoples ask me why I every day real piss? for all I read and how American reaction.Like read Nobuma call back all who was deported in a past, smart not play with fire, because be will burn herself. Word by word I said about liberals are complete true, but many not still believe with all shit dem doing. Peoples with some brain can understand very well what real happening. I am supposite Latino, and over a time I was learn and educate, for understand what real are liberal, of pieces of real shit and what are conservatives. All real problem USA are only one, criminals Dems liberals, let out power and politic and vote, and all problems be will start vanish.

      • ray crawley

        HEY, go back to where ever you came from, as you do not have the mental capacity to articulate American English..
        Oh that’s right you just swam across the Texas border, and you are a grey-haired 40 year old who told border patrol that you are still a minor, only age 17..

        • B.Badenoff

          Unfortunately, o hore bag represents one of o bombas smarter voters. And there’s millions more just like him pouring into this country as we speak.

        • Sam

          Hey ray c….at least he’s trying. If you put aside hatred for a minute and really read what he says you will find that he is on our side. He also thinks “dem doin lot of shit” and that’s all going to come down on their heads. That’s not exactly what he said but I’m sure that’s what he meant.

        • tommie3761

          His English is probably better than your Spanish. I commend him for contributing his thoughts. Not surprised that you can’t comprehend what he’s saying. After all, liberals don’t think like normal, logical people. And on top of that, you’re clearly a race hating, liberal Neanderthal with the I.Q. of a single celled organism. Have a nice life and crawl back under the rock you were just under.

        • Alllens

          Hora apparently has the mental capacity to communicate in more than one language. How about you Ray?

        • No name nut case

          Ray, I’d bet that you don’t even know what hora means in Spanish, now do ‘ya? I’d say that “hora” is a darn sight better at English than you are at Spanish.

        • charles johnston

          Wow, Ray. Put down that joint, or beer, or whatever and take a nap. Maybe you’ll wake up a civil human being.

      • M. MOLNAR

        Yes, I agree with you Hora. Once we get the Liberals out of our govt., our Country will be able to function again like it is supposed to. Good thoughts. Thank you for contributing to this blog. You hit the problem right on the head! Excellent job!

        • hora

          I was read a dems ideology, but a problem are not any point of ideology is apply. A line between legal and illegal are to fine, and Dems was pass direct to illegal side.When I come to USA 35 years ago real I was not know nothing, and take time to educate my self and discover I am to deep conservatives, Gov call my Latino, but I not considered, my blood are 100% Ukranian plus my education. I am no rich, how many said republican are for rich, are not real all true. What I hate Liberals are change a name to all, like abortion are murder, but call woman right, How we can respect a party who are pure hate and commit all kind of criminals activities?Nothing doing are legal, but support a nigger who are real illegal alien, that are pure treason.Dems be will paid a consequences.

          • M. MOLNAR

            You are absolutely correct hora. So sad that the liberals have no idea of how their stupidity hurts our nation. They are so full of their own importance and making decisions for everyone else that they make HUGE mistakes and we all suffer. It’s wrong and the American people are done with them…done.

          • DeeBar

            I agree but please …………………………. don’t think that the R’s are going to bail us out , as we may want to think . We’re still faced with 2 parties headed in the same direction . They are owned just like the left .

          • M. MOLNAR

            Yes I know. I believe our two party system is becoming obsolete. But the only way to change it up I either become strong enough like the Tea Party or have a Revolution to level the playing field. Neither of the present parties would graciously bow out because they are full of white haired members ver stuck in their “old” safe ways. There would be much chaos and confusion. But, Hey, if that works then it deinitely is a choice.
            After reading about the many country’s Revolutions this past century, I for one hope it doesn’t come to that…too much bloodshed to change a political system.

          • DeeBar

            Of course you’re right and I’ve been in situations where bullets were traded and never cared for it much .
            My whole point and you got it is that even if the R’s take power we cannot let up and give them the reins to do as they wish .
            People as a whole have bought the two party system and it’s either this or that .
            Thanks for your reply

          • M. MOLNAR

            Of course. Glad to discuss with like minded people!
            I constanty contact my Congressmen and Speaker Boehner urging them to listen to the people’s demands, not the potus. I’m sure by now they know my name. We have to keep up the pressure on these people so they “get it”. The more people that contact their Congressmen, the sooner the Cgrmn will hear us. When you sign a petition to them, they receive it. Most people are afraid to put their names on these documents. We can’t be afraid to do these things. How else will our Congressmen know what we feel? I have also called the Washington D.C. switchboard and have spoken indepth wth my Congressmen’s interns abt subjects I feel strongly about.

            There are so many ways to make your voice heard…we just have to make that action! Until things change more radically wth his two party system, we need to communicate every way we can directly to each of our Congressmen…and definitely to Speaker Boehner.
            Thanks for a great blog session!

          • DeeBar

            They know me too . I try to email Ocrap each week and I don’t pull any punches . Of course he never gets them but I told him had he been in my unit his ass would have been fragged for the liar he is . Thought that might get the Secret Service boys my way but I’m to the point that it doesn’t bother me much and as I’ve said “if there is going to be a war let it begin here” like one of our Patriots of the past .

          • M. MOLNAR

            Touche! I’m right there with you!

          • hora

            But Dems loose part of black and Latino support. See my family are divide, my ex are Latino, but not real me, I still in contact with her, she was told me, most Latinos are real piss with dems. But Dems create scenario where show Dems are hero and conservatives evil. Like a local paper only talk and defend liberals, like one said Romney have a good chance because Clinton will not run, like said dem are to popular and can easy win. I don’t in another places, but here last election was a pure fraud, until to today no one can explain me how from 88 County in OH Dems win with five only.But also local was blacks in all place vote intimidate and menace voter, many was vote more a one time, another machine vote fix to show Nobuma all a times, and many complain of illegal vote. If won clean a system must send FBI and police remove all liberals worker from all Gov place and set conservatives, plus police in each voter place request ID for enter.

          • M. MOLNAR

            You are absolutely correct. The voting polls were tampered with enabling obama the snake to win. In fact I think even the 2008 polls were fixed because whoever is driving obama couldn’t take the chance of him losing. There’s an legal organization that has cleaned up most of the offending state’s poll records so it will be more difficult for that to hapoen again.
            As for your Latino family, they were nothing but pawns for obama to get where he is. Ask them what has he done for that race to make their lives better? Nothing. Like all the promises to change our lives he campaigned…only his change wasn’t our change. Now he is trying to destroy everything and anything abt this country. I tried to warn my Latino friends that he was just using them, but they wouldn’t believe me. They do now.

            Obomba is a manipulator and a criminal yet he still is in the White House. Perhaps not for long. The Legal suit the House of Reps has filed against him may open something he diesn’t want the world to see and perhaps what they find will be enough to proceed with Impeachment and remove him completely from power. ..and everything he legislated against the American people.
            Keep fighting for our country! It is worth the blood and sweat to protect it.

            Please apologize to your Latino family. What obama did is on him, it wasn’t how Americans really feel. No one likes to be conned or used to benefit any politician…no one. Obomba is wrong, dead wrong…and I pray most Americans of all races see who he truly is…the spawn of lucifer…evil through and through…hijo de diablo.

      • No name nut case

        Hora,
        This is a good example of how our neighbors to the south know more about liberty and scum bags in office than the average American liberal! Thank you for your comments.

    • Cdalvitre

      I think you mean demoncrats

      • OSAMA OBAMA

        I think YOU mean demoncraps.

        • Cdalvitre

          Nice, and true. Democrats believe in big government and high taxes, so #1, they can do whatever they like, and #2 leech you of economic freedom. High taxes prevent us from spending our own money, and since one person’s spending is another’s income, can cause unemployment. The money the government collects doesn’t even get put to good use, it goes towards a massive welfare program for frauds and cons, and also towards shady programs of unconstitutional views like NSA, and so on. This is just an opinion, but then again, isn’t at least most of it true?

          • Larry

            What is true?????
            Do you have a fucking Ideal what you are saying.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            I said, SOBER UP!!!!

          • buddman

            Dear Larry you are living proof that Democrats are Morons

    • icetrout

      took em long enough to figure that 1 out…

    • Eileen Jones

      Or that we’re even smarter than the Man in the WH ! The rocks in my backyard are smarter than him !!!

      • taldock

        But you must admit, he has fooled a lot of people.

    • pmbalele

      How can you believe Professor Kahan who has not showered to a year. He works at Yale where it warm still had a winter jacket. That means his brains are frozen even in summer

    • Dick Delson

      Do you practice being stupid, or were you born that way?

    • Canistercook

      Well it took one from an Ivy League school to destroy us!

  • William Fisher

    Those who seek the truth without preconceptions or biases are usually of higher intelligence. They are usually more compassionate. Those who call themselves ‘liberals’ are usually callous and controlling. It may not take a PHD to figure that out because who possess such degrees are usually over educated idiots.

    • marlene

      true, but not all are liberal idiots. admittedly, it’s hard to find one that isn’t…

      • William Fisher

        you are right… the governor of NM is a Latina who once she understood what conservatives and true Republicans stood for she said “I didn’t realize I was a Republican”. The trick is to teach the deluded and brain-washed, since our educational system has been so ‘dumbed down’ and misinformation abounds.

        • OCDiver

          I remember seeing an interview that involved her (I honestly don’t remember who the interviewer was, but it was on FOXNews), she said that her and her husband were leaving a Republican town hall meeting and she turned to her husband after they got back in their car and said “I’ll be damned!! We’re Republicans!!” welcome to the real world Madame Governor!! 😉

        • No name nut case

          The dumbing down of America was intentional. Otherwise they would be smart enough to tell their teachers to shut up and get a job that they are qualified for, such as garbage collector!

          • ray crawley

            Most of the institutional indoctrinators are not intelligent enough to be a dog catcher, or garbage collector..They are all spoon fed drones..

          • No name nut case

            Again, I totally agree! :0)

          • Scarlett

            Teachers in public school are crap.Three in one room and could not do the job.Arrogant and disgusting people who just want to “teach” your child.I walked out with mine,never to return.Best thing I ever did.I self educated a successful business person.I hate to think what they would be if I had not done so.My friend’s grown kids are calling them racists , etc.Guess we know who the ps “taught ” their kids to vote for?

          • No name nut case

            Agree! :0)

          • charles johnston

            School is all about the union now, and money, always money. Screw the kids. Sadly teaching has followed the lowest common denominator to the pigsty. I read a book years ago, written sometime in the late 30’s, that has stuck with me and will forever. Don’t remember the author or the book’s title, but the thing that stuck in my mind was his statement that, after the government began to infiltrate education, the aim was not to produce men and women of letters, but rather to produce a docile workforce. I know it was not easy, but you did the right thing for your child.

          • Scarlett

            That is so nice of you,thank you! You’re right,it sure wasn’t easy.I had to find out how to legally do it.I knew a homeschooling family and a church that schooled with parents.We did not join that,but knowing that family was great! Once I went over to ask a question.I felt bad because when I got there,they were finishing up on a home office.The mother was on a ladder painting,or mudding Sheetrock,or something.I thought she was going to have to get down and go look up the answer to my question. She never stopped for a second.She answered me and kept on with her work ! Smart parents make smart children.Their oldest two graduated college not long ago,and the youngest boy is in Missions Aviation training now.The youngest is still being homeschooled.Pretty remarkable!

          • charles johnston

            You’re right. Lucky kids. It is truly sad that public school has become such an arena for indoctrination. I remember my neice back in the sixties when the experiment with the “New math” was going on. The poor child was so confused it took her a couple of years to catch up after the harebrained scheme was abandoned- probably the forerunner to common core. I try to congratulate anyone who home schools because it’s tough, but it turns out great kids that outperform public school kids at every turn. I am saddened every time I wait for a high-school kid from public school to try and make change if the register doesn’t do it for them. And you deserve kudos for your determination and concern for your child’s future. There are too many that can not do that, or worse, don’t care. Be well.

          • Scarlett

            Thank you so much,your comment means so much! Take care!

          • No name nut case

            Was that book, by any chance, named “A Brave New World”?

          • charles johnston

            Sadly, I can’t remember the name, but it sounds like it, doesn’t it? Whoever he was, he must have been psychic.

          • Larry

            Wow, Public ED was good for you. do you people not see that we are in a World of Shit. Every Southern State that you fight for. READS at lower Standard than OTHER Countries……

          • No name nut case

            Excuse me? “Every Southern State that you fight for READS at lower Standard than OTHER Countries…” You are a fine one to talk! When you learn how to write maybe you can make comments about those who live in the south! By the way, to which “south” are you referring Larry? I was born in Texas, is that considered a “Southern State” by you? It is not technically a southern state, but it is about as south as one can get in this country! Or maybe you are talking about your President’s closest buddies, maybe Cuba, or southern Iran?
            Larry, from how you write I consider you to be barely literate.

          • Apparently, so do you.

          • Scarlett

            So true!

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            My kids were normal until college, then they came home America hating, socialists.

          • Scarlett

            Oh my gosh! I know my neighbors were very particular about the college they allowed their children to attend.There were rules.It had to be a Christian College firstly ,no coed dorms,and had to be within a certain distance from home.The parents went to check it out.I am so sorry,perhaps you can talk to them and make them understand the truth.I sure hope so.Maybe if you let them know how much you love them,their hearts will open up and they will listen to you.The schools are all about teaching your child.They really hated me,I have to say.That was okay,I left them in our rear view mirror.The whole thing is that parents,now more than ever,need to take over raising their kids.Parents can work at different times , or a single parent can join a church group or a homeschooling group for support.There are no school supplies and clothes to buy.Only curriculum if you choose to use books,or school online.Socializing can be done in other ways,that’s not what school is for. The biggest,best birthday parties I have seen were homeschoolers.Other times,the father plays guitar and they have campfires and cookouts.Good times together! It can’t be beat and is so worth it! Just be sure to take the religious exemption.The government can’t touch you then.Also good to join the Homeschool Legal Defense Assoc. At least the first year.They tell you everything to do legally to opt out of public school and be rid of them.It used to be a hundred dollars a year,may have gone up a little.About half what I paid for the last batch of school supplies I bought for public school.Good riddance to them!

    • No name nut case

      You are absolutely correct. Politics were never spoken in our home as I grew up. I really have no idea how my parents voted, but my sister and I both are conservatives! That should say something about letting a thinking individual make up their own mind! And it is exactly why the liberals took over the school system in the late sixties! They figured out that they could take otherwise normal thinking young minds of mush and indoctrinate them to their agenda, then produce generation after generation of goose stepping libertards.

      • Scarlett

        Yes,they get their hands on the children and “teach” them .

        • No name nut case

          The worst part is the majority of what they teach may not be in any textbook except maybe their science book titled “Human Sexuality”! There is no telling what happens to those kids when they drop off their kids at the school’s door! Perverts congregate where there are children.

          • Scarlett

            I can tell you they are not safe there.I used to think they were,but found out different.A woman parent got upset with me one rainy morning because I wasn’t moving along fast enough to let mine out at the curb in front of the door as all parents were doing.She was behind me,and I left and came home,not knowing she was upset except for her horn blowing.She went in after my child and got their name,address,and who knows what.The principle said kids are told to answer questions from adults and said they did right.This woman got no permission to talk to my child and they did nothing to her.Then she started following me and I had to call the police.I would not allow my child back in the school and cleaned out their locker myself.This was only one of the many problems I had,others had to do with curriculum I didn’t approve of.It was all hell.It was so good to just take them out.We had a great time together! Only wish I’d done it sooner.And they learned what I taught them, not someone else.

  • Peter Smith

    Open your eyes, open your ears, and witness your surroundings. Of course you’ll be more aware of your environment and it’s consequences in relation to yourself. Walk around like a progressive, with your eyes closed and your ears full of sh-t, and you’ll know either Obama didn’t know about it and he’s doing a great job,….or, it’s George Bush’s fault.

    • marlene

      good points

      • Faith

        Well said!!!!!. Perfect description of how progressives walk around.

    • Jacqueleen

      Result: a lawless society……their description of liberty.

      • No name nut case

        Actually the liberal’s idea of liberty is a communist socialist utopia where daddy government takes care of their every need (and having no liberties at all). Just like that pre-1970’s utopian Soviet Socialist Union – back when they had to line up for days just to buy a roll of toilet paper and a potato, and only a few of them got even a single roll or a single potato before the government distribution center ran out. Each individual citizen there had more than we stupid Americans who hold on to freedom, the Constitution, and the ability to work wherever we are educated enough and smart enough (the two don’t necessarily equate), and drug/alcohol free enough to hold the job. Why wouldn’t any “right thinking” liberal want to tear down a government where more people own their homes than any other country in the world? Owning a home would be counter-productive to their communist indoctrinated twisted little brains.

        • Jacqueleen

          My contention is that the liberal does not consider Socialism as slavery. They are not considering that they will be told that as a shoe maker, you will earn $20,000 per year and not a penny more….any excess will go 100% to the government to re-distribute the wealth. The liberal is thinking pie in the sky as you pointed out as socialist utopia….ARE THEY IN FOR A BIG SHOCK! Obama is achieving his goals by his lawlessness violating his oath of office and spitting on the Constitution.

          • B.Badenoff

            Eliminating the incentive to work.

          • Jacqueleen

            What will happen when more people are depending upon the government than the number of people working to pay the freight? Dr. Savage it the nail on the head when he states, “The definition of liberalism is, it is a mental disorder!”

          • B.Badenoff

            What will happen when there’s no more money for welfare checks, food stamps, subsidized housing, medical and all the other free gimmies,… absolute chaos.

          • Jacqueleen

            ONLY FOR A SHORT WHILE…..Then, a take over by the tyrannical dictator/martial law declared/communism in place of our Constitution/slavery and poverty for all except the chosen few at the top/and memories of what freedom is all about! Bye bye USA and hello North American Union….the new national language is “Spanish.” Si Senor Dictator!

          • No name nut case

            Absolutely agree. That man is as close to a communist as any president who has ever occupied the Oval Office since Roosevelt!

          • reggie

            have you seen this – exam in er (dot) com, Aug 28. Art ic le by Vi cky Nis sen

          • No name nut case

            I don’t think that liberals are capable of thinking. They only know how to repeat what they hear like a parrot.

    • Jsph Hiagan

      If you happen to hear Biden’s speech yesterday…tells the whole story. Bunch of union pukes in Detroit. “IT TIME WE TOOK BACK THE ECONOMY”!!!!!!! BACK FROM WHAT????????? You’ve had it for 6 years. And suggesting have gone the wrong direction and need to take it back???? These neurotic misfits don’t have a clue

      • senior74

        I read an article about Bidens speech in Detroit where he said “take back America” at myfox/detriot.com and over 600 comments, typical one “like what the democrats & unions did to Detriot”, destroyed it after 50 years! All comments really blasted him!

      • OSAMA OBAMA

        He also said this: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate
        and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean,
        that’s a storybook, man.”……and did this:” SEAL Team 6 has attained international prominence for one reason: They were responsible for killing Osama bin Laden.
        Several days after the bin Laden operation, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. —
        in a pathetic attempt to spike the football and gloat — publicly
        revealed their central role in the raid.
        A Taliban fighter shot down a Chinook helicopter carrying 22 Navy SEAL Team 6 members in Afghanistan. All 38 persons on board — the Navy SEAL warriors, other U.S. military personnel and seven Afghan soldiers — were killed.
        Mr. Biden’s reckless actions — followed by President Obama’s own words
        acknowledging the secret unit’s operation — jeopardized the Navy SEALs’
        safety.

        • ray crawley

          If you pay very close attention to what “Joe The Clown” is saying, you will see that he has already started his run up to push The Hildabeast” out of contention for POTUS..

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            While Ogolfer, Biden and Ohillary hunch each other’s legs, it will be comical to see them bash each other come 2016..

          • No name nut case

            Maybe they will destroy each other….at least we can hope.

          • No name nut case

            Neither Joe nor Hillary are smart enough to run the country, but then neither was Obum and it didn’t keep him from being elected! Folks, I have a confession to make. Hillary is my 1st cousin once removed, but I’m here to tell you that every time I think about it, it gives me the shivers! I didn’t know find out about it until last year. Sharing some of the same genetics makes me think that her problem can’t be a genetic lack of intelligence, it has to be a birth injury or maybe she was hit by a car. No! I know what it was! She attended liberal schools and I didn’t!!!

        • No name nut case

          If there is any hope of ejecting the libertards from office, the voters will have to figure out how much the libertards lie, that they are totally immoral, flagrantly ignore the law, and that they aren’t very bright, just really good liars!

        • They had to be killed to cover up the fact that the man they killed was not bin Laden. Couldn’t have been because he died in late 2001 of acute renal failure. The whole thing was an orchestrated event to bolster Obongo’s poor polling numbers. Remember, it happened the same week that his SS number and draft card were found to be fraudulent. The beginning of his never ending series of scandals that he used to keep the American people confused and distracted about WHAT HE WAS DOING TO THE ECONOMY.

      • M. MOLNAR

        Have you seen Detroit? The slums, the broken down buildings, the broken down people? And these pukes want to take back the Economy? What economy? the slum areas? They already created that part of Detroit by their trying to control labor wage actions that leveled the normal bustling areas of manufacturing and turned them into the Slums of depression. Nicely done boys. But aren’t you being a little presumptuous saying you want to take back the economy that you made happen? Someone’s not thinking with a full deck…

        You are right. They do not know what they do or how their actions affect others. And being from Detroit, gang city, I’m sure they all are experts in the criminal trades.

        The Labor Unions had their day, which is over and done with, but as all gangsters, they get used to the money flowing in and when it stops they feel slighted. They are a bunch of misfits and “gangsters” that belong in another time zone, perhaps the dinosaur period with Tyrannosauros Rex as their Team Leader. Good luck with that.

        • No name nut case

          The Dems will pump welfare money into Detroit and keep everyone there on the government dole. Then the Dems will brag about what they have done to raise the personal income. After the people become used to receiving welfare for a generation or two it is all they know and they have no ambition at all to do anything else. That section becomes owned by the Dems. It’s happened over and over and over.

      • No name nut case

        No one ever accused Biden of being intelligent! Lol! If anyone takes it back it won’t be the people who have it!

      • Peter Smith

        I’m sure Joe couldn’t tell you, “from what” either. I doubt there is a person in this administration that could answer the “from what” question.

    • M. MOLNAR

      So true, so true!

    • No name nut case

      That’s for sure! I got so darn sick of everything being Bush’s fault. Holy cow! He hasn’t been in office in…how long? At least two terms of liberal destruction! And how much better are things today? That question can’t be answered because it is asked with the wrong words! It should be “how much worse is it?”

  • CINDY

    If people,loudmouth liberals, took the time to actually find out what the Tea Party stands for, I doubt they’d be screaming vile ugly things about them…So glad this Prof. gave the libs a lemon to suck on…

    • marlene

      i believe the leftards do know what the tea party is about and that’s what scares them.

      • OCDiver

        I think ya hit the nail dead square on the head!! They’re terrified that the truth about THEM will be revealed

        • Don Jusko

          I laughed when they said they were attacking the tea party, the largest group of people that were ever assembled. The puny misfits got some of what they are going to get a lot more of. Obama is left and has increased the national debt 7.5 trillion dollars. Take the left down.

    • Robert Waddell

      Oh yes they would! They have been turned over to reprobate minds! Bible prophecy in the end times!

      • No name nut case

        Actually the bible says “reprobate mind” singular. (Romans 1:28) That could indicate that the individuals are lead by and listen to a person, or a being, with a reprobate mind.
        “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to
        a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder,
        debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful,
        proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
        disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural
        affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in
        them that
        do them.
        Yup, that sounds about right.

  • Jeff Noncent

    I am a tea party person

    • marlene

      i, too, am now because i’m not stupid either.

      • Jeff Noncent

        what do you mean are you a tea party, or not

  • Dick Delson

    The tea party is a crock…

    • hdrydr

      And you, my little libtard, are what is in the crock… BTW. Your first name sums you up rather well.

      • Dick Delson

        I may be a dick,but I’m not a SCHMUCK like you.

        • OCDiver

          No? how about moronic troll then!!

          • Dick Delson

            Better than being a right wing schmuck like you

          • OCDiver

            I’d much rather be considered a right wing schmuck by idiots than a country destroying moronic buffoon troll like you!!

          • Dick Delson

            Hey idiot, I served in the Army and worked in The White House for LBJ.
            What have you ever done?

          • OCDiver

            Then you’re a disgrace of a soldier

          • No name nut case

            What does that prove?

        • hdrydr

          A schmuck is a dick, you libtard moron. You are BOTH a schmuck and a dick and an UNEDUCATED one at that. Go back into your closet and QUIETLY hang yourself. Maybe learn to tie a knot first, dim wit.

          • Dick Delson

            I have an undergraduate and graduate degrees from NYU.
            Did you make it past the 3rd grade.
            You are way too stupid to continue this.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Yeah, and I am a nuclear scientist, brain surgeon, Ambassador,

          • Dick Delson

            Did you make it past the 3rd grade?????
            By the way, I voted for Ronald Reagan twice. He was a cool guy unlike George W. MORON

        • No name nut case

          Wanna bet?

      • Dick Delson

        And while you are at it, why don’t you tell us why Richard Nixon was the only President ever kicked out of office?
        And why Newt Gingrich was kicked out of Congress?

        And why George W. MORON begged his father to keep him out of the military, which he did, and then invaded Iraq1 for oil money for he and his father.
        I served and still wear my dog tags.
        Did you?

        • OCDiver

          you’re attitude towards people exercising their Constitutional rights, for which you supposedly fought for, is a disgrace to what ever uniform you supposedly wore. and if you’ll remember your history correctly even Nixon’s fellow Republicans went after him for his stupidity, unlike the dumbocraps today that are continually defending the ignoramus in the WH now and all of his lawlessness.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          Or, why did Cliton boff anything that walked through his orifice, Teddy boy Kennedy let an intern drown, or Jack and Bobby have Marilyn killed? Nixon had enough testicles to voluntarily leave office. Why doesn’t your BOY do anything but play golf.

        • William Benton

          Dick Delson are you a special kind of stupid or what ? Nixon was not kicked out he resigned for the good of americans everywhere

      • Dick Delson

        Hdrydr – Why don’t you tell me why Nixon “resigned”? And why Ford pardoned him? And why Bush invaded Iraq? And why Bush begged his father to keep him out of the military?
        And why Erlichmann and Haldermann went to prison for 3 years? And why Gingrich was kicked out of Congress and his post as Speaker of the House? And why anyone listens to Donald Trump?

      • Dick Delson

        Hdrydr – Do you practice being stupid or does it just come naturally?

    • brenda Harrell

      and you are a crock pot.

    • 4grands

      From the mind of an illiterate. …

    • No name nut case

      Dick Delson is a crock.

      • Dick Delson

        Who are you Moron ?

  • MoDeVille

    He needed to do a scientific study to realize and come to the conclusion that non-tea party people/liberal democrats are douche bags? I could have saved him a ton of time and money and told him that.

    • marlene

      true, but now he has science behind him which might help to push the divisive republicans over the line.

    • No name nut case

      But you would have ruined his spending spree!

  • Pig1

    As a Tea Party type person, I can on,uy say one thing. “DUH”?

  • Robert Pekarik

    How about that! The democratic party is corrupt to the core.

  • Huffer

    After years of associating with a fraternity of professional degree holders I found they were ALL lacking in real intelligence and common sense. Outside of their chosen profession, they were extremely illiterate!
    Nice bunch but ignorant.

    • No name nut case

      I’ve never known a “nice” liberal, but you are right that they are ignorant.

  • OCDiver

    I’m shocked that Yale would actually admit that they were wrong about the TEA Party!! This should show the “Liberal” movement that they really aren’t as smart as they think they are!!

  • pmbalele

    Professor Dan M. Kahan has dying brain -senility is cropping
    in. Kahan as a white old male, does not
    know and will never understand that TP is an extreme conservative movement
    whose mission is to bring back the Country to the 50s and 60s when Blacks were
    3rd class citizens – i.e. next to white women
    who were 2nd class. I was at a meeting when one TP white attorney – accidentally
    said: “We can hurt Black males and nothing can be done to us
    Whites.” He had forgotten I was sitting
    behind him. The whole room went numb for
    the statement. The attorney has been let go. Now this moron professor does not
    know TP is admixed with KKK groups to hurt Blacks and even White women. You remember Atkin, the white male, who said
    raped women, is god-send. That is exactly what criminal white males behaved in
    the 50s and 60s. They could getting away raping women and then shift blame onto
    Black males who were hanged without trial. TEA Party leaders thought they were
    fooling us that they were after tax cuts. They were not. Obama had already cut
    their tax when TPs were picketing in DC in 2010. So actually TPs were there to
    get out frustrations why regular Whites, Blacks and other racial minorities
    elected Black family to occupy the WH. That had hurt TPs and Repubs who are
    racists. Professor Kahan should retire –
    too old.

    • OCDiver

      And you have irrefutable proof of this load of bullshit??

      • pmbalele

        A survey of TPs and Repubs has found that most are intellectually under achievers. Such people join TP as escape from reality and
        hate for Blacks. And such hate is reflected among white police officers – brutally beating Blacks and as in Ferguson killing Black kids. You remember that highway patrol that beat a Black woman
        lying on pavement. Would he have done the same to a White woman of that age? No

        • OCDiver

          Just more words, where’s the irrefutable proof of what your saying being true??
          Who conducted the survey? what region was surveyed? You bring instances of bad things happening from current events, but where is the hard evidence that what your saying is fact, all we’ve seen of those incidents are clips off of the news, we don’t know the truth of the events leading up to what we saw, nor after. And your final question and answered by you …… pure speculation because you never interviewed the Officer involved. The simple fact of the matter is that you’re full of shit and there is no way that you’re going to convince me otherwise.

          Statistics from the FBI show that there is way more Black on Black, and Black on White violence than there is White on Black. But we only here about the White on Black crimes so that the liberal media, the NAACP and the ACLU can keep racism alive so that they can all keep their jobs.
          You never hear about racism from the Conservatives other than to talk about more liberals pointing fingers at Conservatives blaming them for the racism, accusing them of racism to keep the weak minded afraid of Conservatism so that more liberals can be voted for.

          I grow really tired of having this battle of wit with you, you’re obviously completely and totally unarmed!!
          Go troll someplace else.

        • OCDiver

          This is NOT irrefutable proof of your bullshit
          try again!!

          • pmbalele

            Please google TPs and Repubs achievments and e-mail me back.

          • OCDiver

            Google? A liberally biased web site that can be changed by anyone? Don’t make me laugh!

          • OCDiver

            Google??? A liberally biased search engine that seldom has any accuracy to it at all??

            Don’t make me laugh!

          • pmbalele

            Okay query on regular internet. And where did you get this professor who seems to have lived in a cave and then came back. He seems not to have taken a shower for years; and TPs are taking his word!

        • pmbalele

          And I doubt if TPs and Repubs will go to heaven. Recently they renounced and voted against Pope Francis as a friend. These two parties think the Pope is too liberal – whatever that means. We have quite a few Irish people in TP. Most Irish are Catholic. Now they are distancing themselves from the Pope. TP and Repubs are going to burn in hell for sure.

    • Galveston1

      Is your Kool Aid preference orange or grape?

      • pmbalele

        This professor is another Mitch McConnell-a good for nothing racist in the Senate. These old people still think Blacks are evil. We are not – and in fact we tend to be more patient than Whites. We tolerate the abuses by government and private sector CEOs that deny us jobs. Whites would explode if treated as Blacks.

        • Galveston1

          I am TP. I see many Black people in the TP. TP is not racist! FYI, KKK was Democrat, Dems have done everything possible to keep Blacks “on the reservation”, dependent on government, and below average in success. The new “morality” pushed by dems destroys families, especially Black ones. Who is it that demands abortion on demand? Democrats! What race babies get aborted most? Black ones. Think that over, please.

          • pmbalele

            Black families have been destroyed by Repubs and now TPs. Repubs judges and prosecutors had a design to convict Black males for a long time. Just yesterday two Blacks were released from prison after spending 30 yearas for crimes they did not commit. If you visit Black ommunities now you find 7 of 10 people in the street are females. Where are Black males? In prison.

          • No name nut case

            Can you tell me exactly how the Tea Party is “destroying black males”? You sir are drinking the Kool-Aid. Let me fill you in on a little known fact (at least since the democrats got into power in the public schools) the slave owners in the south were primarily DEMOCRATS!!!!! Read the history books, not the crap that the Dems put in the public schools!

          • pmbalele

            I have told you TPs and Repubs premise when elected is how to hurt Blacks. Then if that fails, their focus is how to take advantage of Blacks. Do you remember Senator Trent Lott a TP who said: I wish we had shipped all Blacks back to Africa? We would not have these problems. That is how TPs think and act. Now they are confused a Black family is in the WH. That is why TPs were picketing in DC in 2010.

          • No name nut case

            And you think that Republicans make blacks commit crimes? Yeah, that’s right thinking isn’t it? Get off your pity potty! A lot of people are wrongly convicted of crimes, it isn’t a black thing! So Please give it a rest!!!

          • pmbalele

            Do I think that Republicans make blacks commit crimes? Yes. Repubs and TPs encourage CEOs to discriminate against Blacks. A person without a job has propensity to commit crimes to live.

          • No name nut case

            That is absolutely correct!!

        • No name nut case

          Ah ha. Now we understand the vehement lies and accusations. It is a color thing, isn’t it? If you would get off your pity potty for a while and take a good look around, the Tea Party and the Republican party are NOT the ones who are keeping you under their feet and slaves to their agendas! Wake up before it is too late for you, if it isn’t already!

          • pmbalele

            I know what is hurting TPs and Repubs. They cannot stand having a Black family live in the WH. All these TP demonstrations were stupidity in TP brains. Of course TPs won in 2010. In Wisconsin we elected TP governor. But by
            2012 people had woke up. They found out TPs are liars. They re-elected President Obama. As for this year, I doubt Walker will be re-elected in November. Polls show he is behind 4 points. Like many TPs the Wisconsin governor
            is a high school drop-out.

          • No name nut case

            You do not have a flippin’ clue what you are taking about.

          • pmbalele

            Professor Kahan reminds me of Maharishi – the guru that
            brain-washes people to believe he is god-send.

          • No name nut case

            No, whites voted for him to try to put to rest the accusations of racism!! But that backfired in their faces! I bet they never let it happen again. They have learned their lesson now that no matter what one does, the blacks are going to keep the racism going because they PROFIT from it!!

          • pmbalele

            Wait a minute. Those 60% of Whites and 99% Blacks who voted for President Obama read his mission right. In fact up to this moment they are happy they voted and re-voted for President Obama. There is an element of people i.e. TPs and extreme Repubs who regret why they did not vote for
            President Obama. That is why they spent 3 months in 2010 picketing against President Obama. Did you ask them why they were in DC? FoxNews went and asked them what their mission was. None of them had defined mission other than
            picketing against President Obama. Glen Beck – their leader recently apologized why he founded TP. He now regrets for creating such hateful group.

    • JM

      Now why do liberals start name calling right away? I AM NOT A RACIST and I know of no racist in my area but I do see a problem with the Liberals and you are proof of it.

      • OCDiver

        AMEN!! without racism they’d be out of work!! that’s why they work so hard at keeping it alive.

      • NCF8710 .

        Liberals are an example of arrested development. They are still children. Like children, they are frightened by images and words. When they are losing an argument, they resort to name calling.

        • Lynne Berman

          you should be great full for someone to blame

          • NCF8710 .

            The word is grateful as in the Grateful Dead. Come on, get with it!

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Can’t, she has to go to the D.N.C. web site to get her thoughts in order.

      • No name nut case

        I agree JM. The liberals are the ones who stir up the %a&@! I have never even seen a demonstration because of race in the area in which I live, which, has Mexican Americans, Black Americans, Asian Americans, and, oh yeah, White Americans; and by the way, it is predominantly conservative! Oh, I wonder if pmbalele noticed the word “Americans?” The law abiding are treated like law abiding American citizens! No one here ever tried to stop anyone from voting at any polling center that they choose.
        I live in Texas, and there are more people moving into Texas right now than anywhere else in the country!!
        pmbalele did you know that the economy is booming and housing sales are booming in Texas? Guess what? California is moving to Texas! Got any guesses why? Because LIBERAL policies and liberal (otherwise known as communist) politics don’t work, never have and never will! There is nothing “liberal” about liberal policies. They are stifling communist strangle holds! No one ever lives well under them and the only people who believe the garbage that liberals spew out are those who attended public schools in the last 30 years and who didn’t have parents who corrected the insanity of liberalism in their offspring.
        Did you ever wonder why there are so many kids today in private schools? (Or do your blinders keep you from noticing?) Their parents were smart enough to cough up the money to have their little ones schooled in something other than communism. The parents who cared enough about their children to sacrifice for their progeny’s welfare.

      • pmbalele

        Yes you’re – if you’re in TP or TP operative you’re a bigot. You know TP was coined to harass the FIRST FAMILY OF US who were living in the WH. TPs had been raised to believe the WH was for Whites only. When regular Americans elected Obama in 2008 there was disconnect of how these TPs were raised – WH for Whites. That is why they were picketing in DC for no apparent reason. And you Kahan thinks TPs were bright – they were not. They were just like former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) who said “if we had shipped all Blacks to Africa, we would not have these problems.” That is you Dr. Kahan is preaching.

      • No name nut case

        Absolutely! Racism stays around because there is something in it for the minorities! Blacks are the REAL racists!

    • Jim

      pinbale – you are exactly what Kahan was talking about. Whatever garbage can you have been digging in, you were looking for facts that are not there or anywhere else but, you have been told this stuff so you just have to believe in the myth. The only ones that are getting misinformatin are people such as yourself. Let go of whatever agenda you have and believe in this Nation and what you could do for it instead of trying to bury people in smut. There are instances where bad things have happened, there is nothing to be gained by trying to label every one with the facts of a few. I was born and raised in Ark. and Miss. and have spent the rest of my life (so far) living in the South and the North, both are good places to live. Guess what I have found crime every where, bad politics every where and guess what else…. I have lived through it all and make my decisions who who is a good politician from research and not WHAT someone else says, statements which are good to hear are nothing but a foundation for the truth or a lie. YOU have to find the true facts and not publish the rubbish of unfounded facts. Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth and you want to believe in it and punish those who are accused of the lie. Not to say that sometimes the truth is the truth, it is up to each American Citizen to find that truth and go forth with it. We have a Nation that has good and bad parts, lets not dwell on the bad but go forward with the good and build a stronger U.S.A., a place to raise our children to continue. We can always find the bad and puff out our chest and brag on how good we are. I’d rather brag on the good we can do and be a real hero.

      • pmbalele

        Let me tell you – All this time I thought professors were wise people given the time they achieved such status. I am sorry to say, these people remained with what they were told when young. I am surprised they did not deprogram themselves through school. That bothers me. I gave an example of a lawyer. Lawyers are supposed to know the law and I expect them to live to the law. No. I have also told you about one federal judge in Wisconsin -Judge Crabb -who still thinks Blacks are intellectually inferior to her as a White person. This is a federal judge and therefore smart. Still she continues to hold such garbage in her brains. So when I read about Kahan, it reminded me of Crabb and the lawyer. These people never deprogrammed themselves. It’s impossible for normal person to think TPs are regular people. TPS are primitive and evil people trying to destroy America the Beautiful. I don’t think we should let them get away with it.

    • Bob Honiker

      I have personally escorted people out of Tea Party rallies because of racist signs or behavior. This is the rule throughout the movement. Everyone is welcome at our events and will be treated with respect, if they respect others.

      • OCDiver

        I’ll bet if the truth were told, the people you escorted out weren’t really TEA Party members, but leftylizards trying to smear the TEA Party.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          An old libTURD trick often used on conservative blogs.

          • OCDiver

            That’s what I figured

        • No name nut case

          I agree. The Tea Party meetings that I have attended were respectful, and as a matter of fact the leaders in the local organization were minorities!! Take that pmbalele!

      • pmbalele

        At least you told the truth and you’re not hiding behind tax-cut flag. And as a TP we know you’re a bigot and a racist.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          And as a libTURD, we know you should be checked for anal leakage.

          • pmbalele

            Sorry, you took Professor Kahan findings seriously that they blinded you from the truth. Professor Kahan is a mental case.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            I also believe Ocumstain doesn’t play golf, lie, read the koran, hang curtains, let Ambassadors die in Benghazi, has our best interests in mind……….

    • Donald Clark

      I’m sorry the education didn’t get to you. We all paid for it. But to make the best of it, get somebody to help you with this story. And then study this sentence:
      Obama has destroyed race relations in the United States, and he wanted to do that.

      • pmbalele

        I don’t know whether I should repeat what I have told everybody. Obama has bridged the gap between Whites and Blacks; between America and Africa; and between America and Asia; America and Europe. Now if you’re invited in the WH, please behave like a normal American. When you in the WH now, you cannot call Blacks,
        Whites, Asians slur names. You will be escorted by Secret service out. Remember Obama’s father is Black, His mother is White; He was raised partly by Asian step farther and then raised by White grandparents. So President Obama grew like a typical American
        i.e. without inside gripes against other races. Obama’s family, like JFK, is the best First Family ever to occupy the WH.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          LMFAO!!!!!!!!

        • No name nut case

          You HAVE drunk the Kool-Aid!!

          • pmbalele

            The problem with you is that you associate yourself with Professor Kahan – a mental case. Kahan concocted some stupid data to lie to you. Do you remember Darwin? He laid to the world that Africans, as a species could not have babies with Whites. Darwin associated Blacks with gorillas.

    • No name nut case

      You’re an idiot and you can’t write in such a way that anyone can understand a thing you are trying to convey. That speaks volumes for one educated in a liberal school system!

      • pmbalele

        Professor Kahan reminds about Mitch McConnell and Trent Lott
        (R-Miss.) – ugly and haters of Blacks.

        • No name nut case

          So you are black? Since I can’t see you, how can you accuse me of racism? You have no figgin’ idea who I am or what color I am! So back off jack!

          • pmbalele

            If you’re Black then you belong to Blacks who want us slaves in tobacco plantations. Please join the following Blacks who claim are Anglo-Saxon Blacks: Herman Cain, Allen West, Michael Steele, Jason Riley, Deneen Borelli
            and many more now working for FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh.

          • No name nut case

            Anglo-Saxon Blacks??????? That is a conundrum within a puzzle! Do you know what the word Anglo-Saxon means? Obviously not!

          • pmbalele

            Do I know what Anglo-Saxon means? Yes I do. Herman Cain and Allen West don’t think are African-Americans. Their friends are only White people such as Koch Brothers. Have you seen West or Cain with Blacks in his campaign rallies? No. Herman Cain once said: “The Koch Brothers are my brothers from another mother.” When asked if Cain was African-American, he responded with a big No. He claimed was British but Black – with no label. So that made him a
            Black Anglo-Saxon. Actually Cain and West did not want be associated with President Obama because he is African-American.

    • Lynne Berman

      When people are sooooo Right all the time it is difficult to actually have a conversation. They don’t get it’s the same bird with a right and left wing………since it can’t fly with only side…..but then…..I’m just talking to myself, huh? Maybe both wings need to be clipped..? Isn’t TP toilet paper?

      • goober

        Lyne no offense, but your comments (all of them) suggest they are written by a juvenile. Are you 15 years old or younger?

      • pmbalele

        Just read what TPs are writing about President Obama. Would they write the same with Bush?. No. You can tell the book by its cover.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          Hey dim bulb, did Bush:..Benghazi,
          Fast and Furious, the IRS targeting scandal, the NSA scandal, the AP
          phone records scandal, the VA hospitals scandal, the Stimulus Package,
          Solyndra, illegal immigration, ObamaCare, unimaginable National Debt, border insecurity, golfing ,???? And “he ain’t done yet”!!

          • pmbalele

            I have never seen dumb people in the world like TPs. How can you believe such an old loony like Kahan? The guy was hallucinating when lying to TPs. Now you’re raising old farts: Benghazi, NSA, IRS, Solyndra, legal not illegal immigration, border insecurity and goofing. So you don’t know the Benghazi guy was captured; you don’t know NSA was caused by Snowden; there is no illegal immigration
            issue; the border is secure; Solyndra is working. Those are dumb issues coined by FoxNews, a stupid right wing cable. FoxNews takes advantage of gullible TPs – pouring their money for ads. And now I am reading about Rush Limbaugh rant. What is wrong with TPs to listen to Limbaugh a lunatic? Limbaugh is a sick person. Do they really enjoy his stupidity? He is one of those dividing
            the Country into Blacks and Whites– and TPs agree with him? Then TPs are telling me they are not bigots. Liars.

          • No name nut case

            Good lord! What planet did you come from? Where were you educated, or were you educated? What you are saying makes no sense whatever. You were filled with so many lies that you can’t distinguish the truth from a lie! You couldn’t be so confused just by a poor school system! You have to have been fed pig swill information from everyone you have encountered in your poor deprived life! Please, please, please, learn to read by reading; learn logic by listening to/reading logic; learn how to distinguish the truth from a lie! The only way to do that is listen with an open mind and then think what the outcome of what each have said would be, for pity sake! If you don’t you are “drinking the Kool-Aid”, if you even know what that means. A very bad man who was a pyscho religious leader, but people didn’t know that he was pyscho, organized to take his church to Africa. The entire congregation believed everything he told them. When he got them there he began telling them lies and brainwashing them. Eventually he made them drink poisoned kool-aide and every single one of them died!

          • pmbalele

            Did you say- Eventually he made them drink poisoned Kool-aide and every single one of them died! That is what you’re doing -believing in professor Kahan. Look at his picture. Do you think he is normal? He looks like Maharishi to me – capable of brain-washing others to drink his false TP research. And we are reading a lot such people these days -until they are caught.

        • No name nut case

          I can’t figure out why you can’t write sentences that make sense.

          • pmbalele

            You read my words because I am Black and they are Black. You were raised to put down black people and what they write or say.

          • No name nut case

            You have no idea what you are talking about. A typical ignorant response. If you want to be treated equally, you have to take the bad with the good! We can’t see color on a blog, all we can see is logic or lack of logic, and honey you LACK LOGIC!!

          • pmbalele

            Thanks. Have a wonderful day.

  • Paul Brown

    I always knew I was smarter then the average idiot demon-rat in this country.

    • OCDiver

      Makes two of us ….. now we have scientific evidence!! LOL

  • Canistercook

    Don’t think Tea Party members get their politics from comedians!

  • Canistercook

    Well if you voted for Obama you probably also believe the false crap that is put out by his supporters about the Tea Party. Trouble with democracy is you have to have an intelligent voting public.

    • No name nut case

      An intelligent voting public is exactly the problem! Most people in this country can’t get their heads out of the soap operas and Oprah show and stupid sit-coms long enough to consider the problems plaguing this county.

      • Canistercook

        And the Unionized main stream media loves it and keeps them brain washed.

  • NCF8710 .

    I agree with Professor Kahan’s observation. However, I would replace “slightly” with significantly.

  • bigdaddy

    The Democrat may no longer believe in God, the Constitution or even motherhood
    and apple pie, but he devoutly believes that somewhere out there Republicans and
    Tea Party are sitting in a sealed room and plotting to bring back the 50’s.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      You said it big mommy…..”The Democrat may no longer believe in God, the Constitution or even motherhood and apple pie” You turds believe in allah, ripping up that archaic Constitution, destroying the family unit. Sad isn’t it.

      • No name nut case

        Too many parents trusted the government to educate their children. Now look what we have! The kids are uneducated can’t think for themselves, on drugs and worst of all, Liberals!! It is possible that they will wake up one day and realize that they are on the wrong side, if they can get off the drugs long enough to think about anything.
        All kids who are home schooled or schooled in private schools are smarter and more respectful of their parents and their government than the average public schooled kid.
        Public schools dumb down the students!

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          Pubic schools don’t teach, they indoctrinate, teach LGBT, ecology B.S., dumb down tests, lower standards, everything but TEACH!!

  • disqus_RiKgBtmZQk

    Have you ever talked to a real left wing liberal in college? They are all so burnt out on drugs it is amusing they actually can find their way back to their dorm rooms! LOL.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      Easy to tell, they have berets, beards, glasses, a pipe, and a physique Ogolfer would be proud of.

  • basegitar

    Any way the author could rewrite the headline so it is a complete sentence? Also, please provide a link to the research, it always helps to review the data and analysis directly, instead of reading four, one sentence paragraphs which don’t even discuss any of the research. Thank you.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      AW!!! Too hard to understand? I hope you misspelled Bass Guitar on purpose dolt!

      • basegitar

        Actually, I did intentionally misspell my handle, since “basegitar” is consistently available. Since you were obviously able to infer the what “Yale professor discovers Tea Party members are ‘more scientifically literate'” means, please explain what or whom they are more scientifically literate than, exactly? Liberals, non-TP Republicans, college graduates, bonobos, or what? That’s why I was requesting a link to the actually research, for a greater comprehension than “This guy said that.”

        • OCDiver

          Read the story goomba!! it specifically says “non-Tea Party population” that “infers” everyone in the population NOT affiliated with the Tea Party!! you are so obtuse it’s almost …… SAD!!! “actually research”??? really??
          and instead of asking any one of us for the link …. why not do what us on the right do and research the link for yourself instead of relying on your leftie friends to do the research for you and believing their obvious lies!!

          • basegitar

            Why are you so excited? I just thought the reporting seemed incomplete. Nice to know that you appreciate questions. I did already track down the original research, which was from a blog post over a year ago, and was certainly not peer-reviewed. I just wanted to see in anyone else here happened to read the actual research.

            So, since the non-TP includes EVERYONE, it is entirely possible that the “conservrepub” group could have pulled down the scientific literacy score of the non-“conservrepub” (presumably Democrats, and independents). The results of Dr. Kahan’s same research shows that the conservrepub group was less scientifically literate than the non conservrepub group (to a greater degree than TP vs nonTP). Therefore the research doesn’t seem to be claiming what you think it is claiming.

            On a side note, thank you for correcting my typos, I always appreciate that. However, if you want to attack someone’s “literary education,” for making a small typographical error, please make sure you punctuate correctly, and you don’t type stuff like “if you had brain one you’d know that and not even bother asking them in this forum!!”

          • basegitar

            It doesn’t seem like my other post made it through, but here are a couple of quotes from the author’s blog post about the difference between TP and non TP:

            “the relationship [between identifying as Tea Party and scientific literacy] is trivially small”

            “I won’t be surprised at all if the correlations between science comprehension and political ideology or identification with the Tea Party movement disappear or flip their signs. These effects are trivially small, & if I sample 2000+ people it’s pretty likely any discrepancy I see will be ‘statistically significant’–which has precious little to do with ‘practically significant.'”

            “Yes, the tea party is just like everyone else — which is to say, highly vulnerable to the reason-effacing consequences of our polluted science communication environment.”

          • basegitar

            Oh! I just found one more quote from Dr. Kahan, from last year, when addressing the issue of people misinterpreting this point of his research.

            “Anyone who might be tempted to beat his or her chest in a triumphal tribal howl over the practically meaningless correlation between right-left political outlooks & science comprehension could thus expect to find him- or herself fatally impaled the very next instant on the sharp spear tip of simple, unassailable logic.”

          • OCDiver

            That goes for you libs too goomba!!! LOL try again ass wipe!!

          • basegitar

            The whole point of the original research was that scientific literacy is no predictor of political ideology, and political ideology is no predictor of scientific literacy. Obviously it applies across the board, or that would not have been the conclusion!

            All I did was point out that you, and apparently every one else in the comments, grossly misunderstood what the research was saying. I provided quotes from the same person you are quoting to defend your position, and you felt the need to call me an ass wipe?! Have I even once been disrespectful to you in this exchange at all?

          • OCDiver

            Thinking that you need to “point things out” to us like we’re beneath you socially because we don’t agree with liberalism in and of itself is the disrespect, but you’re apparently too obtuse to gather that on your own.

          • basegitar

            Apparently someone needed to point out the actual results of the research, because no one here understood it! When did I ever insinuate that I believe I am above people who don’t agree with liberalism? If you took that from me solely discussing the results of this particular research, I’m sorry. I would like to point out that you have no clue about my political ideology, and I know for a fact that political ideology has no bearing on scientific literacy.

            I mean, seriously, I don’t think there is anything disrespectful about pointing out the conclusions (which were surprisingly absent from this article) using quotes, directly from the author of the research. If anything it is disrespectful to knowingly misrepresent research results. If you already knew what the research was really saying, I didn’t mean to repeat it to you. However, if you did, I’m a bit confused as to why you would continue to represent an incorrect interpretation of the data. And yes, I am aware that both sides of the aisle knowingly misrepresent scientific research for political benefit. That’s why I was asking the author of this article to rephrase the headline, so it isn’t as misleading, and to provide a link to the actual research, so every person can independently look at the data, and see what the research means.

          • OCDiver

            How are you finding the conclusions? where are they if not in this article? You’ve shown no links yourself that we can go to to verify your conclusions. That is what I’m talking about, you make all of these allegations that we are misinterpreting the article, saying that we are the ones that are confused yet don’t say where you’re getting your information from. You give quotes but no articles to back up those quotes. That is the disrespect, that is insulting our intelligence. We’re just supposed to believe you because you say so? If you’re going to refute something, give the people you’re talking to hard evidence that what you’re saying is the truth and how you came by the information to refute the issue.

          • basegitar

            I’m sorry for not providing the links to the page. When I initially asked for links I was told to do my own research, as if everyone had already reviewed the research. All the quotes I got were from the Dan Kahan.

            The original research by Kahan is here:
            http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/10/15/some-data-on-education-religiosity-ideology-and-science-comp.html

            His response to the exact issue of misinterpreting that particular part of his research:
            http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/10/19/congratulations-tea-party-members-you-are-just-as-vulnerable.html

          • OCDiver

            Very well, I stand corrected and apologize.
            I only asked because I had done a bunch of research and couldn’t find what you were talking about. Starting with the Professor himself and Yale.

          • basegitar

            No worries. Yeah, that’s why I was kind of bummed they didn’t but a link in this article. I always prefer to get my info directly from the source. Once again, sorry for not sharing those links earlier.

          • OCDiver

            No problem, for future reference though. If your asking someone to interpret an article, that’s when they’re going to want you to do your own research, when you actually get into the nitty gritty and start refuting that article and challenging the validity of the articles author ……. that’s when folks are going to want you to have the links to and references of the information that you found to back up your argument. 😉

            and for the record …… calling you ass wipe was a bit over the top and I apologize for having done that. That really isn’t who I am. And I thoroughly enjoyed our debate!!

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          Funny how libTURDS only want “proof” when the study finds them to be
          intellectually challenged, but not when their views are reflected.!

      • basegitar

        Also, what scale were they using to test the concept of “scientific literacy?” Was this an actually study, or more observations based on previously collected data sets? If it was a study, how was it conducted? If it was a pre-existing data set, when was the data collected, and how was it collected? Thanks Osama, I know you understood the article much better than anyone else. So thanks in advance for filling in those missing details.

        • OCDiver

          WHAT??? an “actually study”??? ROTFLMBO!!! where in the world did you get your literary education???? as for your questions …. they can only be answered by the Yale Professor himself and if you had brain one you’d know that and not even bother asking them in this forum!!

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Funny how libTURDS only want “proof” when the study finds them to be intellectually challenged, but not when their views are reflected.

  • Lynne Berman

    Yea but what about all those low info rightards? or is it turds?

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      Get back in the kitchen.

      • OCDiver

        They sure don’t like it when the truth of their misconceptions is revealed do they?

        • Lynne Berman

          Really? How is it you project your misconceptions ? Unless, because you are so right you don’t have any?

          • OCDiver

            Oh no!! No, I make mistakes and I freely admit when I’m wrong. Unlike the liberals, that like to start calling people racists, haters etc., sling mud, point fingers, shift blame, troll web pages like these, etc. etc. etc.. The proof is in the puddin’ too!! All you have to do is look at all of the posts on this page where liberals interject there nonsense where others are having intelligent, fact based conversations.

          • basegitar

            “All you have to do is look at all of the posts on this page where liberals interject there nonsense where others are having intelligent, fact based conversations.”

            Fact based conversations? Might those be like where I pointed out that you, and just about everyone in the comments here, misinterpreted the research, according the guy who actually did the research, and you totally glossed over that and just decided to call me an ass wipe?

          • OCDiver

            Those are YOUR interpretation of the facts, spun from the actual verbiage of the piece, in an attempt to belittle our conversations. Once again your spinning the truth just like a good little brainwashed liberal always does because they believe themselves to be superior intellectually, when in fact and truth of the matter your world is just impossible to create because it creates to many lazy people expecting a Government hand out which puts too much demand on the hard working individuals that take pride and responsibility in themselves to do it the correct way.

          • No name nut case

            I didn’t see where anyone called you an ass wipe. Do you have a guilty conscience?

          • basegitar
    • Doug

      “Rightards cannot be, once someone realises the right way of how things are done and how they SHOULD be, they KNOW they are RIGHT!!!
      Being right wing is Biblical, in Ecclesiastes 10:2 it says the heart of a wise man inclines him to the right, while the heart of a fool inclines to the left.
      So…..left wing libtards are fools

    • No name nut case

      Ohhhh, I’m really intimidated with that retort. Oooo, You hurt my feelings with that insult. Can’t you do any better than that? A three year old could have done better!

  • hepette .

    what a joke——-how much did you t nuts pay him to say that

    • Bob Honiker

      Get serious, the democrats own the left side of the Bell Curve.

    • OCDiver

      I do believe the man is paid by Yale University, not private funding. You just gave another perfect example of the liberal ignorance

      • hepette .

        and you are full of it———–i can post lots of sites that have to do with tparty repukes have low info levels. you just are really stupid.

        • OCDiver

          and you have proof of your irrefutable evidence that I’m “stupid” or any of this other bullshit you’re spewing??

          get a life and quit trolling … you’re no damn good at it

          • hepette .

            too bad i get to say what i believe and want to say ahahahhah

          • OCDiver

            Just more evidence of YOUR stupidity, when asked for proof all you and your ilk want to do is hide behind the 1st Amendment. Laugh all you want ignoramus, the more you do the more you show your ignorance.

          • hepette .

            nothing i say would be acceptable to a repuke/bagger like yourself. dont waste your breath

          • OCDiver

            Even more evidence of your stupidity!! Just because I’m in this chat room disagreeing with you doesn’t make me a “bagger”; unlike your obvious libtard demoncrap points of view that you insist on putting in. Mine are merely defending the Constitutional Amendments that you and your ilk enjoy hiding behind while trying to strip others of theirs. I’m not even a member of the TEA Party, but I am a very proud Republican. If you can say something that makes sense, and doesn’t sound like a utopian socialist commie bunch of ignorant mumbo jumbo, I’d be glad to hear what you have to say. But when all you want to do is belittle and demean what others are saying with no evidence or proof to back up what you say ….. then yeah, you’re right, you have nothing to say that would be acceptable to anyone using common sense to live their lives by.

        • Pendy1

          Let’s have them, lefty.

        • progressive r fascists commies

          I knew you were a racists commie. your grammar is god awful and you have the nerve to call someone really stupid… lmao. such hypocrisy, typical commie

          • hepette .

            are you an english teacher? you understood exactly what i was saying lmao

          • progressive r fascists commies

            you are actually assuming I understood…lmao… jesus you are one stupid f^ck

          • hepette .

            YOU DID AND YOU ARE A LIAR ON TOP OF THAT

          • progressive r fascists commies

            oh so you are god and you know all. typical democrap.
            lol… you would know about lies since that’s all you spread all day every day
            what happened I thought you weren’t responding to me anymore. again typical democrap. flip to the flop

    • hepette .
      • hepette .

        “Despite their important implications for interpersonal behaviors and relations, cognitive abilities have been largely ignored as explanations of prejudice. We proposed and tested mediation models in which lower cognitive ability predicts greater prejudice, an effect mediated through the endorsement of right-wing ideologies (social conservatism, right-wing authoritarianism) and low levels of contact with out-groups. In an analysis of two large-scale, nationally representative United Kingdom data sets (N = 15,874), we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology. A secondary analysis of a U.S. data set confirmed a predictive effect of poor abstract-reasoning skills on antihomosexual prejudice, a relation partially mediated by both authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact. All analyses controlled for education and socioeconomic status. Our results suggest that cognitive abilities play a critical, albeit underappreciated, role in prejudice. Consequently, we recommend a heightened focus on cognitive ability in research on prejudice and a better integration of cognitive ability into prejudice models.”

        A January 2012 article in the Journal Live Science also cites the Hodsdon-Busseri study,

        “There’s no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb…Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice.”

        • conservativeindependent

          What’s your point. If you are going to accuse the TEA Party of racism, you are being dishonest. Please show us one honest example. I am not a member of the TEA Party but, I agree with a lot of what they strive for, for our country. If you are going to accuse me of being the things you label the TEA Party members as, I will retort and label you as a lying hypocrite. Don’t be mad because a liberal professor has stated that TEA Party members are more intelligent than the average liberal/progressive. Educate yourself on facts instead of innuendo and, maybe you’ll test better, next time.

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            Silly, libturds always use the left’s and democrat’s favorite accusatory word…RACIST! They can’t understand why “racists” would love it if Dr. Carson or Col. Allan West or both reclaimed the White House.

        • progressive r fascists commies

          why do you hate America so much, racists commie…oh its because you have low iq. I got you. stay willfully ignorant, you wear it well

          • hepette .

            my iq is 130 for your info. now just what is yours???????????

        • No name nut case

          And liberals fake it!!

    • William Benton

      lHepette you really a special kind of stupid

      • hepette .

        takes one to know one lmao

        • William Benton

          hepette your comment has removed all doubt about your being a special kind of stupid and you must be in kindergarten too.

    • Libertarian Tom

      hepette, unlike your side, we don’t don’t have to pay people to agree with us. Do you realize that you’ve been indoctrinated? Or do you live in perpetual ignorance? Here’s what I tell my liberal friends, next time you’re alone, imagine that the TEA party has infiltrated the media, schools and Gov’t. Then I want you to make a list of everything that you believe would happen, the news stories, the legislation that would be passed, the way schools would run and subjects that would be taught. I ask them to make lists of everything. Those that have done that, comeback with things like, cutting off welfare, deporting all immigrants, forcing children to pray in school, eliminating evolution from text books, denying global warming, and my favorite, raising taxes on low income families so they can cut taxes for the wealthy and for corp’s. That’s what many liberals believe. I then ask them how the TEA party got it’s name, they all say the same thing, the Boston Tea party. That’s when I start to educate them, starting with the name, tea is an acronym, it stands for Tax Enough Already. That’s when they usually shutdown, and begin to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s when I hand them a list of points and tell them not to believe me, but to research them for themselves. And an amazing thing happens to those who do the research, they discover that they agree with most of the things that the TEA party stands for. Those that don’t do the research, always say they did and start reciting the party lines. I challenge all you liberals to research the beliefs of the TEA party, and don’t just go to wiki answers or the huffington post. Do the foot work, and you’ll be surprised. Then justify this to me, why is it that you all believe that every other country has the right to stop people from coming into their country, you all even support the imprisonment of illegal immigrants there, but you think that anyone in America who believes that, is a racist. Then justify why the Federal Govt is taking huge swaths of land out west and barring everyone from them, even hikers. What would you say if it was the TEA party or Republicans that were do it? If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll see that there is something very wrong with what’s going.

      • hepette .

        obama has deported more illegals than any other potus in the hx of usa. furthermore, the tparty is a cancer on the citizens of usa

    • CintiCB

      Jealous?

      • hepette .

        HARDLY—-I WOULD DIE BEFORE I BECAME A REPUKE BAGGER

    • progressive r fascists commies

      how much does soros pay barry to spew the garbage he spews, racists commie

  • bbnnmm

    This simply speaks to the STUPIDITY of those that choose to listen to the lies spread by the lamestream media and the lib-progressive-dem lie machine. Stupid is as stupid believes. Truth always triumphs simply because false, by it’s very nature, DOES NOT EXIST!

    • No name nut case

      Oh, it exists alright, but it is a Satanic ploy. Liberalism is an opposite and equal reaction to everything that is good, honest and wholesome.

  • Robert Waddell

    The difference is truth, chivalry, pride, allegiance, love, and determination, along with belief in God, his son Jesus, family, morals, and goodness!

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      You left out responsibility and hard work.

    • Patriot159

      Sir, you are a true anti-liberal!

      • No name nut case

        Isn’t it wonderful and refreshing to hear!?

    • No name nut case

      Amen!

  • Robert Waddell

    I’m so, proud to be an American! And I’m Damn Proud Of My Fellow Man, And Woman! God Bless Us All.

  • John Degges

    Apparently, Professor Kahan is an honest “liberal;” Diogenes can put his lantern out now.

    • CintiCB

      The professors’ honesty is the ONLY surprising aspect of this. What a pleasant surprise. I hope that bamy-boy doesn’t send the alphabet agencies after him!

  • Dick Delson

    did you go to Yale?

  • Paladin

    Somehow the obvious becomes obvious to morons… duh!!!

  • oldsalt35

    Well professor We knew all along that our views were correct, and that the present administration, and the other folks who are liberals, or elites were blowing smoke up our yazoos.

  • M. MOLNAR

    I could have told him that years ago. Tea Party Members also see things more clearly and are willing to stand up and voice their opinions…and fight it out if need be. They are for smaller government and NOT Big government over reach, but of course those people who are on the take from this administration monetarily wise, would disagree with you.

    They will support BIG govt. as long as they can suckle from its hind teet. Pity, because they could become useful and prosperous people if they would have been taught a trade or career instead of just handed a voucher for money, they would have learned something they could explore and improve on through out their lives.

    People do not learn anything when just given things…except to want more and more. If you teach people how to be useful and better their lives, they will grow smarter and want to make better futures for their loved ones and themselves.

    Obama’s clueless policies didn’t do those masses on unemployment and welfare any good…they got hurt more than helped. And if our dollar ever deflates to the point of being useless, those masses won’t be getting any further help from this govt. Where do you think they will take their rage? To the White House first, then to their neighbors. No obama’s policies weren’t thought out well enough (just quick fixes for a critical issue) nor where they smart. They are hurting the very people who really needed a better form of assistance — the kind they could use all of their lives and be proud of.

    Tea Partiers are going to be the difference between why our Nation prospers or dies. Because Tea Partiers care enough to go that extra mile to make it happen! And, yes, they are smarter than the average American…Thank God! We need Smarts in this Country big time starting from the President on down. 2016 is coming! Vote for Conservative Smarts no matter the color or race, not delusion Liberal dreams. We’ve got to heal our Country and regrow its Strength!

    • No name nut case

      One thing that has to be remembered is who the tea party presents as their candidate. Their character and their quality is crucial to beating the demoncraps. If the tea party candidate is nothing more than a career politician he/she just might be a dud. He or she must be smarter than the average person and be ready to tackle the problems which the Obuma years have created. They must also be quick witted and brave enough to have a good comeback when the opponent makes insolent, inane comments! In the last several races I have seen a lack of a good retort from the Republican candidates. I didn’t think the Republican candidate had a chance in hell of winning! If the conservative plans on winning they have to be on their toes!
      Oh, I forgot to mention that I have lost a lot of confidence in our system. I’m not sure it is all on the up and up. If it is, why has every President served two terms since Reagan? There is something fundamentally wrong with that, especially since each incumbent is hated by the other party! As much as each party hates the other, and it being a fact that some of the opposition party has to vote for the other side (or maybe at least stay at home and not vote at all) for the opposition to be re-elected, what the hey is going on there!? It just sounds like a game of taking turns, regardless of who votes and who doesn’t, and regardless of who is running for the office. It just smacks of something that isn’t kosher. Or, maybe I’m just suspicious by nature.

  • sickpuppy70454

    I’ll bet the defibrillators at Yale are being overworked.

  • LEHensonPROAmerica

    SEE http://shelby912teaparty.com/ “TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party members are only slightly smarter”? Of all the 100’s I’ve met, only 1 was nearly as ignorant as that POS in the VP and P positions! TEA Party “members” (actually mostly occasional casual attendees) WORK for a living and didn’t spend 7 years (drinking, smoking dope, being “laid back”, doing other drugs on someone else’s dime) becoming a teacher and then show their stupidity of griping about not knowing what their pay would be!!!
    Guess MOST moron Professors are STUPID! YEP!

  • Sam

    At lease Professor Kahan owned up to be unknowing….I don’t want to say stupid. With the print and most broadcast media left spouting off it’s no wonder he was so mis-informed. My mom told me more than 60 years ago, believe nothing you hear or read and only 50% of what you see and you will be closer to the truth than you can ever be! Thanks mom…you were soooo riSght!

  • ReaperHD

    You mean that people who want less government and less taxes somehow are smarter than Progressive Liberal Democrats who want more government and more taxes. Kinda makes you wonder what level of moron all these Progressive Liberal Democrat Professors are on.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      Right!!! The libTURDS in Kalifornia voted themselves a tax increase, prop. 30, and the “tax the rich” vermin legislators, (Darrel Steinberg) just gave us a fuel tax increase Jan. 1 .Unfortunately, it will also tax the fixed income, .low income, poverty level as well. Thanx liberals!!!!

      • No name nut case

        Are you a Californian? If so, why are you still there? I think all the rest of California has moved to Texas. One can’t buy a new house anywhere south of Houston, and I hear it is the same in other cities, because of the influx. Houston is the #1 hottest real estate market in the world right now, according to Market Watch (a part of the Wall Street Journal). A new house comes on the market and before the sun sets it has sold! We know because we are in process of moving to the Gulf coast area ourselves, and we already live in Texas. Our house sold for what we asked the second day it was on the market, and we live in the middle of nowhere. It is currently in process of closing. We have decided that we will have to go to the builders and make a deal for them to build one specifically for us. Texas is a great place to live, but I’m hoping that California won’t change the political climate. If they do Texas won’t be Texas anymore and it won’t be anywhere near as desirable to live in.

  • to tell you the truth, i find the stuff lib professors say, no longer shocks me. i have heard pretty much all of it,

  • J.B. Young

    Well, a liberal professor with a brain. Amazing!

    • Patrick Henry

      Even MORE surprising… a liberal professor with SCRUPLES!

  • mcbee555

    Whomever dubbed the Democrat hordes as “dumkopfs” knew exactly what they are. They’re like programmed automatons, all repeating bumper sticker quips as if they were turned out by the truckloads from the same propaganda minister..

    • Patriot159

      When Oscamus got re-elected, I came up with a phrase to describe the lib voters: “Mindless, Zombie Lemmings”.

      • mcbee555

        I’ve become inured to the fact that mostly they’re followers who are content to be directed without much analysis of their dogma. They just cling to being Democrats because they’ve become conditioned that being so is acceptable by the “powers to be,” meaning the leftist media. By doing so, they’re spared of the intricacies of being conservatives and being attacked by media propagandists. Life made simple! All that media’s efforts are in the form of negativity and distortions targeting conservatives which they call Republicans. And, if one is a Republican and Tea Party member, in the court of shallow opinion, that’s just plain terrible to them. They don’t acknowledge degrees of conservatism, that’s unnecessary to them for the all-encompassing animosity they need to keep generating. Not joining them is tantamount to a crime for thinking. The consumers of that trash only need to know where it’s coming from, after which such deviation from leftist orientation is totally unacceptable to them. We have chosen a course that adheres to that “useless”, as they see it, document called the U.S. Constitution. Their lives are simple and reliance on the egg-heads of giant central government to do what they want to do without enjoining “the people” is good for them. Remember that cartoon character on the cover of “Mad” Comics? (name escapes me) There was always a cartoon caption over his head which stated “What…me worry?” Well, that’s common to the other side’s thinking. They place their reliance on the “results” of Barack H. Obama or anybody else except themselves and argue for their bumper sticker slogans.

        • No name nut case

          They are taught lies in by liberal teachers in the school system and the lies are supported by the network news and liberal television. Even the sit-coms are spewing liberal ideas as if they are written in stone and they make fun of conservatives as knuckle dragging Neanderthals. They really do not realize how stupid they actually are.

    • No name nut case

      You mean they’re not? Lol!

  • Maria castro

    They will crucify him.

  • Sharron

    I can’t help but to wonder why the Libs. can’t see what is going on? We saw it from the start. They can’t put anything together.

    • No name nut case

      They cause it, therefore they can’t see it. Kind of like the forest and the trees.

  • madjak

    I’ve had a lot if discussions with too many liberals this week, they also have something in common they all have the Chris Mathew’s virus , they think their smarter more informed and righteous but can’t source a reference find a fact but resort to insults like a bully on the playground socialism just like capitalism doesn’t work unless everyone is working the more people out of work the more people want socialism

    • jaybird

      They are righteous and they don’t listen to what you are saying therefore they misinterpret what you mean.

      • reggie

        They don’t want to be confused by facts.

  • Robert Leenerts

    🙂

  • ron

    the democrats are the party of low breeds and women. So no-one should be surprised! as women are not logical creatures, and weren’t even allowed to vote until lately, and for good reason, and the low breeds are limited by their cranial capacity of course.

    • jaybird

      Women are not logical creatures? You are lumping all women together. I disagree! How about women that own and work in construction and women mechanics, you have to be logical for those jobs. You just showed everyone that you are not a logical person. You have women that are presidents of Tea Parties. I bet you are single because I don’t thank too many women would put up with your BS.

      • OSAMA OBAMA

        Come on J, he is a libTURD that drags our efforts down by portraying us as misogynists and racists. That is an often used libTURD tactic.

        • satch

          tru,but they succumb to themselves in padded rooms.

      • ron

        u don’t have to be logical to be a president, but rather have social skills, skills which emotional creatures have. I have a mechanic shop 33 years, have yet to see a woman mechanic who could actually fix anything, and i don’t think anyone would want a house built by a woman, to be sure.. In college, FSU (1980 grad), there were no women in my physics classes, and I understand there are many years where we don’t graduate one woman in our entire country with an applied mathematics degree . I would also like to point out that all of our top institutions of higher learning have been forced to lower there standards to let women and lower breeds in by the supreme court. Of course there are exceptions to everything, including physical laws of nature. Many are brainwashed into believing that women are very logical, but in our hearts we all know, and as the facts point out..

        • jaybird

          You dumba$$, my 24 yr old blonde grandaughter’s electric window in her vehicle quit, so she took one out of a junked car, looked at a you tube video and installed the working one. She is now a dental hygienist.

          • ron

            that makes her a beginner parts changer actually. You would not believe all the people who change a part and wa lah, they think they’re a mechanic. And that’s the way it is with a lot of professions and how people think today too. A true seasoned mechanic professional is a lifetime in the making, and goes much much further than changing a window regulator

          • No name nut case

            You are so full of bull that it would gag a maggot!

          • jaybird

            I wonder what she would have become if she had studied for that kind of job or any mechanical job for that matter. I was only giving you an example, I did not say she was a mechanic and she does not consider herself a mechanic and changing an electrical motor in a window showed initiative.

            You and your set in your ways, generalized thinking You have just found the type of women that will put up with your BS they don’t have any confidence in themselves so they believe what you spew. I am done with you.

        • No name nut case

          I’m female and I used to work on my own car by necessity, and knew what I was doing! Mechanics isn’t rocket science for Pete’s sake! You are simply spewing misogynistic bull puddles!

      • ron

        If women are so logical, why are they so poorly represented at the top in all the logical professions, applied mathematics, engineering, and law. Ask yourself truthfully, would u really want a woman building your house or fixing your car? I think not, and if they’re so logical, why did the supreme court have to force our best schools to lower their entrance requirements? Sure there is exceptions to every rule, but the facts are facts, and speak for themselves. You see it’s your kind of thinking that has landed us in an upside down country. Also, women love me, and i think it’s because i’m honest with them, myself and the facts.

        • No name nut case

          I think you are lumping all women together without any real facts. I guess using your standards all men are misogynous knuckle draggers.

          • ron

            well the knuckle draggers are the ones that resort to name calling, and cannot debate like gentleman. Women have superior minds actually, but they are arranged in such a way that they are less logical then men, Just because they are less logical doesn’t make them less smart. Intelligence can be measured many different ways, and of course when it comes to emotional intelligence, women are way ahead, thank God.

          • No name nut case

            I have been told by many, many people that I am very logical in my thinking. The only way that women are inferior to men is in size and strength.

        • No name nut case

          I am female, retired but was a professional in the medical field. Don’t tell me that I’m not logical you libturd! And I used to work on cars, too. Not because I had to, but because I found it interesting! I used to street drag (because I had a car with a hot engine) if you know what that means! I am not gay, either. I am married, I am a mother, and a grandmother and I could still beat your butt if you wanted to street drag! I am intelligent, strong and I have guts. I also can shoot better than most men. Men are NOT better than women at anything other than being larger and physically stronger…although I have kicked a few men’s butts, literally when they got out of line and they are better at being a jackass!

    • Galveston1

      We could all name several VERY logical women in public affairs.

      • ron

        In public affairs emotional intelligence is king, not logic. Where are all the woman engineers? There should be millions of them if they’re so logical. More men actually engineer womens clothing than women do. What a joke for women to call themselves highly logical, and lucky for our kids they are not!

        • No name nut case

          You haven’t been looking around have you? There are probably just about as many female as male engineers! How intelligent does one have to be to become a doctor? There are thousands of female doctors! They weren’t given their degrees they EARNED them, you misogynist turd.

          • ron

            Woman make good doctors, and should dominate the profession (after all 91% of nurses are women), but only 29 % of doctors are female. I wish there were a lot more too, they actually listen, and are empathetic. But about all the woman engineers, I’m sorry, the field is dominated by men, women only have 13% of the engineering degrees, much less make it professionally, in what is a highly lucrative field. Anyways, how come liberals always resort to name calling? Seems they cannot debate like gentleman, shows your ignorance.

    • JimRed

      Either you believe that drivel and are beyond hope, or you are trying to masquerade as your warped image of a conservative. The “grain of truth” in those statements is tiny indeed. You think in terms of groups, rather than evaluating individuals, just as the liberals do.

      • ron

        Science is believing in facts and statistics, and science shows there is no question that women and men have different physiology, and brain power. Woman have emotional intelligence more than men, because their brains are designed that way, and lack the visual spatial reasoning men have to solve problems and create solutions (see wikipedia). “The grain of truth ” would be that men and women are equal because of a few exceptions. Also, science again shows conclusively that cranial capacity and intelligence go hand in hand, and again, even a liberal publication like Wikipedia had to agree. There is just too much proof now to ignore, and Is not about groups and individuals, is about the truth. So tell me is it conservative or liberal to ignore the facts?

        • No name nut case

          Those statements only go to prove that you are an idiot.

    • No name nut case

      Hey! I’m a woman and a thinking woman at that, and I’m a conservative!

      • ron

        I did not say women do not think and that they cannot be conservative. Women have emotional intelligence, rather than logical, and can arrive at the same conclusions as a logical man in many cases. However the fact is woman are nurturing, and are more empathetic, and is hard for them to make the hard choices. Your highly developed sensitivities, which is a beautiful thing, and makes a woman a woman, comes at the expense of logic. Men and women are not wired the same, we have different brains, and is what science shows, the facts. Luckily for our babies and children we do not have women with a mans brain!

  • Joe Ruisi

    It’s a testament to the uselessness of intellectuals who learned nothing about their country except that it was predatory and evil. They apparently don’t know anything about the original Tea Party in the Boston Harbor that sparked the revolution against a Monarchy that taxed them a fraction of what our current government does. That’s why we say we want our country back.

    • No name nut case

      I think we should demand our country back! Back to the Constitution!!

  • New York Upstater

    Obumble should be tried and put in prison for life as should his wife also be.

    • No name nut case

      I don’t think you can call a transgender man a “wife.” I knew, as well as the sun would rise, that when Joan Rivers said “everyone knows that she is a tranny” someone would kill her. She’s dead. What a shock!

  • Proud US vet/American

    There are two types of people-“Those that do, and those that teach(politician’s included)”, and the ones that do are our REAL leaders and Heroes.
    I guess we all know where that leaves Obama, don’t we?

  • And to think I used to be a Harvard man! GO YALE!

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      Hey Jeff! Didn’t those leftist pukes teach you to love socialism, hate America and LIE!!

  • OSAMA OBAMA

    What hole is Obama on now??

    • No name nut case

      Still the 2nd hole for the fifth time and twelve broken clubs.

  • James Earp

    It means demos bully people much smarter than them. They cause their own problems then like tiny kids blame all others.

  • MarcJ

    President Mullah B. Hussein Obama is a Marxist Muslim (Sunni kind) born in Mombasa, Kenya. It is now confirmed 100%.

    1) Both birth certificates were forged by clever computer imaging – the short form one
    and the long form one. The long form one was issued after the short-form one
    was shown to be a forgery and lists the hospital’s new name from 1971 – ten
    years after his birth. How irresponsibly careless are those forgers!

    2) His Selective Service card is a forgery with a forged date; all SS cards show US
    Postal Service date with 4 numbers for the year; his card shows only two – cut
    from 2008 and reversed into 80.

    3) Airport immigration records for several days around his birthday are missing –
    destroyed; all such records are complete for at least the last 70 years for
    every US international airport– except for the first 10 days from August 1 to
    10, 1961, when he was born, and when his grandmother and mother returned to
    Honolulu flying from Kenya with the baby.

    4) His Social Security card belongs to a long-dead Connecticut
    man by the name of Jean Paul Ludwig who died in Hawaii;
    Obama never lived in Connecticut. His grandmother worked for the Honolulu Social Services where she stole Mr. Ludwig’s Social Security card.

    5) His
    grandmother had said to the newsmen that she had accompanied her daughter,
    Obama’s mother, on a trip to Mombasa, Kenya, to give birth there. Within a week after that the grandmother suddenly died; the official explanation was that the grandmother was losing her mind due to old age. In my opinion she was murdered.

    6) His records from the Occidental College in Los Angeles show that he had received its scholarship there as a foreign student from Indonesia. The same “Foreign Student” is also read on his student card from the Columbia University. Those records were then expunged.

    7) He was sent to Pakistan in 1981 by his Muslim stepfather to study 3 months in a Muslim madrassa there, traveling with his Indonesian passport; no Americans were allowed to travel there in that time.

    8) All his schooling records are sealed: Occidental College records, Columbia College records, Columbia thesis paper, Harvard College records; also his Selective Service registration (now shown to be a fake); medical records; Illinois State Senate schedule and records; his law practice client list; baptism record; and his passports. ALL SEALED.

    9) Another nail in the “Hawaii-born” Obama saga was found in the first edition of his
    autobiographical book “Dreams from my father”, where he proudly stated that he
    was born in Kenya. That sentence was purged from the following editions of the
    book. His father was a tribal communist, a Sunni Muslim with multiple wives, ending
    his life as an alcoholic in abject poverty after he had failed in his political aspirations.

    There is no doubt any longer. Except that we all wonder – a President of the United States should have been able to secure services of better professional forgers.

    10) Congressional testimony by the outgoing FBI Director Mueller in 2013 shows the consequences of Obama’s “Outreach” program, whereby the massive capture of all our phone calls and
    e-mails exempts specifically American mosques, their mullahs and imams,
    and their membership from such surveillance. That is how, for example, the
    surveillance of the two Boston Marathon jihadist bombers was stopped back in
    2011 – and these murderers were left in peace to plan and execute their
    terrorist attack from their local mosque. And more recently still one more
    scandal showed up, as follows:

    11) Obama liberated 5 important jihadist Taliban mass murderers jailed at Gitmo in exchange for one of our soldiers who deserted his post in Afghanistan and reportedly converted to Islam. Two of those Taliban Sunni murderers were indicted by the United Nations for crimes against humanity for having murdered tens of thousands of Afghan Shiites. Obama acted illegally without informing the Congress as required per the existing law.

    12) Obama once stated on camera, when asked what he thought the most beautiful sound in the world was, that he thought it was the muezzin’s call to prayers — and proceeded to sing it in perfect Arabic: “Allah-il-Allah….” He also learned the Koran in classical Arabic, a noteworthy feat in the Islamic
    world, like learning the Bible in Hebrew.

    Finally I would appreciate if our liberals, progressives, Commies, Sozis, Eco-Nazis, union goons, “social
    sciences” professors, Democrats, and other bottom-feeders, slime, and scum of our once free society would not answer the above 12 points by their usual invectives and nasty name-calling – but by point-by-point documented answers.

    • reggie

      this re-iterates what you said…exam in er (dot) com, Aug 28. Art ic le by Vi cky Nis sen

    • No name nut case

      When records of a politician are sealed one would be stupid not to know that there is something they are hiding!!

  • TheTrueOne

    My message to Mr Kahan is ‘I concur, my good sir. You are a gentleman and a schollar.’ Those who follow the democrats’ lies fall into two categories. The ignorant and the intellectual who is too afraid to admit that they were had. Seems Mr Kahan was one of the latter until now.

  • Charles R Donahue

    Is there????

  • Frederick Fargher

    Now this is a very wise man! Not only finds out the real truth about Patriotic Constitutional Conservatives, but admits that his original point of view was skewed! Good man!

  • ONLYJB1

    It ain’t rocket science! With all of the disinformation being spewed by a socialist news media, what do you expect? Let them continue to report the disinformation and propaganda. There will be more eyes opened within the next 2 years.

  • woofpacker75

    I will gladly put a tinfoil hat on one of my two heads if it helps get rid of the MSM blather that we Tea Party folks are all knuckle-draggin’ racists. I’ve been to four TP rallies, two in DC and two in Raleigh. I’ve seen a preponderance of professional folks including engineers (like me), doctors, lawyers, accountants, plus business owners, veterans, blacks, women, and blue-collar folks- all of whom are P!SSED at RINOs, Dems in general, and Obummer in particular. RACE is NOT an issue- POLICY most assuredly IS THE ISSUE. The only trouble-makers I’ve ever seen at these rallies were the black hecklers who were dressed like Farrakhan security thugs- black suit, white shirt, black bow tie, bald. Seemed to be picking a fight, hoping someone would jump him. Nobody did. OK, EVERYBODY wanted to, but only because he was making it difficult to hear the speaker.

    • No name nut case

      Hopefully the Tea Party will see to it that the candidate isn’t just politics as usual! We have some real problems that need to be fixed and if they don’t get fixed they will get worse. It is crucial that we have someone who isn’t just party line. If another Bush is nominated I’m going to puke!!!! With all of the conservatives in the country, why do they keep looking at Bush’s? I know a LOT of people who wouldn’t vote for another Bush! They are sick of seeing the country being run by the same family, and it is going downhill!

  • Dick Delson

    hdrydr – I keep thinking no one can be as dumb as Sarah Palin, but you keep proving me wrong.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      “have to enact it to see what’s in it”, “….”I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean,
      that’s a storybook, man.” or..”During a speech Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast, Obama
      referred to a service member serving in Haiti as a “Corpse-man” –
      pronouncing
      the silent p in Corpsman.” or the best one….”… uh, because, you know,
      i-i-it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled … uh to every corner of the United States. Uh, I’ve now been in fifty … ss-seven? states. I think one left to go. Uh, one left to go — eh, Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to, even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not, uh, justify it.”

      • Dick Delson

        You just keep showing me how STUPID you are

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          blather, blather, blather

          • Dick Delson

            Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  • Dick Delson

    Tell me why John McCain lost the 2008 election to Obama?
    It’s a 2 word answer

    • JimRed

      Vote fraud.

  • J. Harp

    ANYONE who is smart enough to affiliate themselves with the Tea Party is miles ahead of the all of the “sheeple” that the Communist Democraps are leading around by the rings in their noses! You do not have to be smart at all to be a Democrap or a Democrap follower! All you have to do is be willing to follow the trail of lying Shiite left by Obama and his Communist minions and NOT HAVE AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT OR THINK FOR YOURSELF!

  • 1lived666

    Read the facts about this report and learn (“The sign of the correlation indicates that science comprehension decreases as political outlooks move in the rightward direction…”):

    Tea Party Supporters And Scientific Literacy

    18th October 2013 Collin Maessen

    On social media there’s never a dull moment with all the interesting and fun things that are shared on it. Also never a shortage of misinformation that’s being bounced around in your preferred ideological echo chamber.

    The latest example of this was a tweet by Marc Morano that said “Yale Professor ‘Embarrassed’ to Discover Tea Party Members are Scientifically Literate” and linked to an article on CNS News (archived here):

    You know that line liberals love to lob at the Tea Party: you’re stupid. Well, obviously that’s not the case, nor has it ever been true. Now, a Yale professor has released some new research showing that the so-called “Tea Party radicals” are actually scientifically literate.

    Professor Dan M. Kahan of the psychology department at Yale says he was surprised to discover a positive correlation between science comprehension and members of the Tea Party:

    “Identifying with the Tea Party correlates positively (r = 0.05, p = 0.05) with scores on the science comprehension measure.”

    “I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension.”

    […]

    “I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”

    […]

    Well, perhaps some of those previous opinions could’ve been dispelled earlier when the New York Times wrote in 2010 that Tea Partiers are more educated – and financially better off – than the rest of the public.

    The problem with how the author of this paper is quoted is that it misrepresents his point. What he’s surprised about is that Tea Party supporters according to his data are scientific literate. But he also says this in the same blog post:

    In this dataset, I found that there is a small correlation (r = -0.05, p = 0.03) between the science comprehension measure and a left-right political outlook measure, Conservrepub, which aggregates liberal-conservative ideology and party self-identification. The sign of the correlation indicates that science comprehension decreases as political outlooks move in the rightward direction–i.e., the more “liberal” and “Democrat,” the more science comprehending.

    Do you think this helps explain conflicts over climate change or other forms of decision-relevant science? I don’t.

    But if you do, then maybe you’ll find this interesting. The dataset happened to have an item in it that asked respondents if they considered themselves “part of the Tea Party movement.” Nineteen percent said yes.

    It turns out that there is about as strong a correlation between scores on the science comprehension scale and identifying with the Tea Party as there is between scores on the science comprehension scale and Conservrepub.

    Except that it has the opposite sign: that is, identifying with the Tea Party correlates positively (r = 0.05,p = 0.05) with scores on the science comprehension measure.

    Again, the relationship is trivially small, and can’t possibly be contributing in any way to the ferocious conflicts over decision-relevant science that we are experiencing.

    What he’s talking about is the disconnect between what the scientific literature says on a subject and how people act towards it in the context of politics. The author, Dan Kahan, originally thought that this disconnect also translated to scientific literacy. But it doesn’t, and it’s something I’ve known for years.

    You can talk about a lot science subjects with climate science deniers, I’ve had some very fun and interesting exchanges. Those that reject valid climate research have no problem accepting and understanding other scientific findings. And most of the people I interact with have the necessary education to understand these subjects.

    The problem arises when scientific findings clash with political positions. In the case of climate science deniers it’s when you start talking about the environment, especially in the context of human caused global warming. That’s when people who are perfectly rational and are scientific literates suddenly reject valid scientific findings. This is what can make someone appear “stupid” when they aren’t.

    It doesn’t matter how trivial it is, often they will outright reject anything that contradicts their position. Which makes it extremely difficult to have a factual based discussion with a climate science denier. This behaviour doesn’t stem from not understanding science, but it’s their ideological mental armour that’s preventing them from accepting valid scientific findings.

    I wrote quite a bit about this in my blog post ‘The Ideological Armour Of ‘Climate Sceptics’‘ and how this manifests itself. It’s a very interesting and relevant subject in the context of science communication.

    But here’s where it gets really interesting. The data the author used for his change of mind about the scientific literacy of Tea Party supporters is the same data he used for his paper ‘Ideology, Motivated Reasoning, and Cognitive Reflection: An Experimental Study‘. This is what it says in the abstract (there’s more in the paper itself which is interesting, emphasis mine):

    Social psychologists have identified various plausible sources of ideological polarization over climate change, gun violence, national security, and like societal risks. This paper describes a study of three of them: the predominance of heuristic-driven information processing by members of the public; ideologically motivated cognition; and personality-trait correlates of political conservativism. The results of the study suggest reason to doubt two common surmises about how these dynamics interact. First, the study presents both observational and experimental data inconsistent with the hypothesis that political conservatism is distinctively associated with closed-mindedness: conservatives did no better or worse than liberals on an objective measure of cognitive reflection; and more importantly, both demonstrated the same unconscious tendency to fit assessments of empirical evidence to their ideological predispositions. Second, the study suggests that this form of bias is not a consequence of overreliance on heuristic or intuitive forms of reasoning; on the contrary, subjects who scored highest in cognitive reflection were the most likely to display ideologically motivated cognition. These findings corroborated the hypotheses of a third theory, which identifies motivated cognition as a form of information processing that rationally promotes individuals’ interests in forming and maintaining beliefs that signify their loyalty to important affinity groups. The paper discusses the normative significance of these findings, including the need to develop science communication strategies that shield policy-relevant facts from the influences that turn them into divisive symbols of identity.

    What this paper found is that the better you are at applying reasoning skills you are more skilled at motivated reasoning. Meaning you use your reasoning skills to maintain a position that is not supported by evidence. Anyone who has ever interacted with science deniers will instantly recognize this.

    Which also makes the CNS News article a fine example of motivated reasoning that maintains the illusion that the Tea Party has positions on science that are correct.

    Categories: Politics and Policy

    • JimRed

      “Well, perhaps some of those previous opinions could’ve been dispelled earlier when the New York Times wrote in 2010 that Tea Partiers are more educated – and financially better off – than the rest of the public.”
      Which when read by a liberal becomes “those hated one-percenters who go it handed to them by white privilege” instead of “folks who worked hard to get educated and worked smart to be successful”.

    • No name nut case

      Climate change is a crock.

  • Sam Houston

    instead of bitching about obama who will be in office until 2016 lets work on a republican who can get voted in and and start fixing this country

    • No name nut case

      Absolutely! And NOT another Bush!

  • llsmith50

    If you go back to 2008, and go you tube, there is a video about the idiots that vote for BO, none of them knew who Polosi, Reid, were or any of the recent Obama history at that time was.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      And those same blind, deaf libTURDS still hunch his leg…LMAO!!

  • llsmith50

    type in how Obama won the election

  • rightsright

    Larry
    Just a few of Obama’s lies are:
    I wrote “Dreams of my father”(Bill Ayers wrote it),Benghazi, no one was told to step down, IRS charges of targeting Tea Party, not true, That six layer birth certificate is real, the fake draft registration, I was born at ? hospital/ no I was born at ? hospital and your father delivered me(announced after the death of the doctor), using someone’s else’s social security number, we paid off our student loans, America is not a Christian nation. I am a Christian, If you like your insurance you can keep it, If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, you will save $2500.00 on your healthcare per year with “Obamacare”, It’s George Bush’s fault that ISIS is in Iraq, Bill Ayers and I are not friends, The government shut down was the Republicans fault, faking racism in order to stifle opponents, Texas killings not terrorism, I quit smoking while he still chews his Nicorette gum when he can’t have his fix, trying to make you think he is a family man, when Chicago knows about his down low club activities, I have been to 58 states and the start of the all the lies “I was born in Hawaii!” Now these are just a few, however the biggest is probably that he is the President and was elected. He can never make a decision on the spot because he has to wait for President Valerie Jarrett, Iranian born, Communist, slumlord and patient dumper, to get the instructions from those evil American controllers, from other countries. He was not elected, but instead placed in the White House by the “used to be” Democrats that are not aware that their party has been taken over by the Communists. They have made their words come true. They have taken over America from within, without firing a shot! There are many, many more Obama lies, because each time he opens his mouth, he uses his Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” (book dedicated to Lucifer) tactics, of which his most famous is tell the lie until it becomes the truth.

    • No name nut case

      That was good! Well said!

    • Warrior

      You are all over the Truth! ill-annoy is famous for raising con men.

  • rightsright

    Larry:Won’t approve pipeline, gave Brazil some of our equipment in the gulf and allowed them to drill, but not the U.S., offered to buy their oil(we take the responsibility while they get the money) Adds so many regulations that small business’ cannot survive or start up, take a little time to read Obamacare, if you want to see how he is destroying the economy and is destroying the middle class by bringing in low pay workers and forcing our income down. Two classes, rich and poor. Poor little obedient workers like China and Russia. You are really not informed and maybe you don’t want to be, because you like Obama’s BS, but you will end up paying price. Our money is going to run out for freebees and Obama supporters will get a big fat nothing when Obama sings “I fooled you!”

  • Sky King

    And once again it begins, It makes no difference whether the comments made are of a positive or negative nature the least rational on either side are always the loudest and most vocal. The partisan zombies on both sides keep spouting the same mantras and trying to shout the other side dawn over things which at this point are totally irrelevant.
    1.Dem Zombies: Bush has been out of office for 5 1/2 years. Even if every charge made against him is valid does that justify the incompetence with which Obama has run his administration. The acts which diminish guaranteed constitutional liberties and over reach of the powers granted to the executive branch.
    2.G.O.P. Zombies:Obama has been in office for 5 1/2 years and at this point it doesn’t matter where he was born even if you could find a birth certificate showing he was born in Mecca by the time you went through the process to have him removed or wasted millions more tax payer dollars(which we would probably have to borrow from China) to go through an impeachment which the current senate would not ratify, The 2016 elections would likely be over and the next president would be ready to be seated anyhow.
    Do I expect any change?
    Neyt! The opposing parties will continue to call each other names and point fingers like truculent 7 yearolds accomplishing nothing and each blaming the other for the lack of progress.and each dismissing any points the other tries to put forth simply because they came from the other side regardless of merits and then wonder why we are going down the tubes.
    I grew up in an iron clad partisan family and married into an iron clad partisan family except that it was the opposition party.
    The garbage I got from both sides was overwhelming, it didn’t take long to realize that what we had always been told about the parties putting up their best and brightest was a load that could have fertilized the entire state of Texas.They put up the one who they think can con the most people and make the party line sound the most palatable. That being said, occasionally one comes across those who actually have verifiable achievements in their background which make them worthy of one’s vote but only so long as they maintain a record of accomplishment. (Note:This only applies at the state and local levels federal legislators should be term limited.3 terms in the house two in the senate.)

    • No name nut case

      Well said! But I think two terms is too many and three terms is enough time to screw up things worse than they already are! Both parties are a failure, and no one else has a chance.

  • Dick Delson

    Last time. I’m a vet. Have undergraduate and graduate degrees from NYU. Worked in The White House for LBJ, and I’m a diehard N.Y. Yankees fan. Mickey Mantle was a friend.

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      And I am comrade Putin, went to Oxford, don’t have a birth certificate, have allowed in 12 million voters, sired this dweeb named DICK (head) Delson.

      • Dick Delson

        You guys just keep proving how dumb you are. But then Bush is a dummy, so you are in good company.

        • OSAMA OBAMA

          And YOU did in 2008 and again in 2012. Stupid is as stupid does. How’s that free phone working, or that section 8 housing ya exist in? Maybe if you had gone to school instead of those OCCUPY riots, you wouldn’t have to suck at the Obama teat.

          • Dick Delson

            I have an undergrad and graduate degree from NYU. I also worked in The White
            House for LBJ. And you’ve done what???????

          • OSAMA OBAMA

            THE L.B.J. that said: “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One
            By the way stooge, I graduated from Harvard AND Oxford Univershitties, cured Ebola, brought peace to the Middle East, eliminated hunger and poverty worldwide.

          • Dick Delson

            Have you ever considered the fact that we are both on the same side? If you attack America, you are attacking both of us. I was in the Army a long time ago, but I still wear my dog tags. Take care of yourself. We need guys like you.

  • Dick Delson

    My first name is Richard. Is STUPID your first name???

  • Dick Delson

    Did you ever work in The White House? Have you ever visited the place?

  • Dick Delson

    Jesus was a Jew. In fact he was a rabbi.Why are most right wingers so stupid? Didn’t you learn anything in school?

  • Dick Delson

    Here’s a brief history for all you right wingers. In order to run for President, you HAVE to be born in the U.S.
    That’s why my friend Arnold was never able to run for President. Did you learn anything in school> O guess not.

  • 1lived666

    We are all Americans working to see that America can be the very best place that it can be for all Americans, from all walks of life regardless of their politics, philosophy, religion, or genetic make-up, within which to live. Additionally, most Americans do this in hopes that we might set an example that the rest of the world will want to follow and imitate. However, there are nearly as many Points of Views (POV) on how to do this as there are Americans. Each POV has its positive points and its negatives…especially in the long term of things. Today there are two American periods in our history that (I believe) we need to look to and to learn from; one is the period starting with the Andrew Jackson Presidency, inaugurated on 15 March 1829, through the election of President Abraham Lincoln and his inauguration on 15 March 1861. As you know this was a period of growing dissention, polarizing political thought and an inability of Americans and their politicians to find and reach a consensus concerning the social, economic, and political direction America should be taking; the upshot of this dissention culminated in the American Civil War.

    The second period of American history I refer to possesses many parallels to the latter period above. This is the period from Ronald Reagan’s Presidency, inaugurated 20 Jan 1981, to the present–minus (so far anyway) a civil war. Since another civil war is not an acceptable answer, for obvious reasons, let us then look to those who in 1787 conceived–by debate, compromise and consensus–that which is our current constitution with amendments. These men possessed the wisdom and insight that allowed them to find, through compromise and consensus, the means by which to create a constitution that could breath, grow and change (via amendments) and as such still exists to this day.

    Do we then, Americans all, lack the wisdom and insight of our Founding Fathers of 227 year ago? Or
    do we still possess the ability, as they did, to reach out to one another, despite our differences, and find the consensus required to move this mighty Nation forward and to do so with the best interest of all Americans in mind so that, as President Lincoln said in his Gettysburg address, “…that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth?”

  • apzzyk

    Sampling error. Same as 1948 when Dewey beat Truman. At the .05 level, there is a mistake in any research. I want to see replication. Go to Harvard, turn left; go to Yale, turn right.

  • Thomas Jones

    A Tea Party Republican is a Ku Klux Klansman who is to dumb to wear his White Sheet. Want some matches for that there Cross Burning white boy?

    • OSAMA OBAMA

      According to National Field Marshal for the New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz:
      “I love white-on white-crime, because that is the best crime.”“I hate the g*ddamn white man, woman, and child, grandma, aunt,
      uncle, Pappa Billy Bob, and whoever else.” “You should be thankful
      we’re not running around here hanging crackers by nooses and all that
      kind of stuff — yet, yet, yet” He has a “wet dream about killing the
      g*ddamn cracker.” “We don’t allow faggots and lesbians” in the New
      Black Panther Army Envisions a world where every black person is
      “ready to bang on this cracker” Wants to take over neighborhoods
      “block by block” so “crackers…or even the developer” would be scared to
      come into them “We’re taught to send this cracker to the cemetery… so kiss ‘em goodbye”

    • sosmartru

      Explain Black Tea Party members..since you have this rather odd idea that it is a white and racist Org..you are displaying your lack of knowledge rather blatantly. ..do yourself a favor. Research the Tea Party someplace other than the Daily KOS and MSNBC. I say this as there is little more tiresome than a battle of wits with an unarmed person. .

  • Canistercook

    And Tea Party people don’t get this information from Jon Stewart!

  • OSAMA OBAMA

    Ah look, the community organizing bus from the D.N.C. just arrived back from the lgbt convention!

  • Dick Delson

    Taldock…you are such an idiot. I have 2 degrees from another great university. We are all Americans and we all believe in our country. That’s all that matters.

  • CandideThirtythree

    More than what.. more than rocks or bags of nails…just barely.

    There are no tea party types in any legitimate scientific faculty that I have been in in the past 30 years.