Democrats Suggests Helping Caravan

Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) spoke in support of the migrant caravan that is headed to the United States from Central America, claiming the U.S. needs to be “trying to help.”

“America’s strength is in our values,” stated Cardin. “We have been a leader internationally standing up for people at risk. The people of Central America, many are at risk. If they qualify for asylum, we believe there should be a process by which that case could be heard in a fair manner, protecting the individuals.”

“[T]he people that are in this caravan, many are in desperate situations. [If] it’s humanitarian need, the United States should be trying to help. Doesn’t necessarily mean they can come and live in America, but we certainly should not be using the language that the president is in regards to the caravan.”

  • Dodie1990

    Idiot.We do not need any more illegals coming here for the American Free Ride. Turn them all away Close the border, build the wall.deport illegals.

  • June G

    How about he and Democommies all take some home to live with them while the Dems PAY FOR ALL THEIR WANTS.

    • Estell Newton

      I think we should send the democrats that want them here to their country and let them straighten out people there.

  • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

    Many of these “immigrants” are not helpless. Most of these people are military aged, able
    bodied men who are burning our flag and putting a swastika on it. They are holding the flags
    of their native lands. Since they disrespect our flag and our POTUS, they need to turn around
    and go home. They need to fight for their own freedom and democracy. They expect us to believe that
    they are fleeing violence. They seem to be advocating violence against America and Americans.

  • donorlougeorge

    WHY NOT HELP OUR OWN FIRST WHO IS IN NEED WHY BREAK THE LAW WITH THESE PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY WANT OUR SCALP BUT TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY IN TIME PLEASE END IT ALL NOW

  • Edd Eaton

    Why wouldn’t dems think that way. They are not spending their money. To help the upcoming housing problem libs should be required to house and feed those that get through. Only right.

  • Ed Lee

    Bull; they are invading. If they wanted asylum they could stop in Mexico. We are humanitarian for OUR CITIZENS.

  • Ed Lee

    Get me and a few other vets, give us M60s and put us on the border. I promise NO ONE will cross the line. (M60 is the machine gun we used in Nam)

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      Can you just see the optics of conservatives mowing down women and children? Why do you thin we lost the Vietnam War? It was the MSM bringing the horrors of war into our living room, not a failure of our troops. Your way would guarantee the Democrats would hold Congress and the presidency for a generation.

      Besides, tell me how you plan would fit in with the teachings of the Gospel? We don’t have to permit an invasion, but the wholesale slaughter of people is unChristian.

      • Ed Lee

        Gospel? Have you actually read it? It is full of battles where Christians fought. Remember Moses raising his arms and they were winning, when he put them down they started losing? Ever hear of Jericho? I am saying we have the god given right to protect our country. When nothing else works, violence always does in spite of non-combatants preaching appeasement. The crusade so far has burned our flag, shouted that they were going to come here, have admitted known criminals to their ranks, and so on. Don’t ignore all this foreshadowing of future behavior. If YOU don’t want to defend our country from enemies both external and within, you don’t have to, that is the beauty of America, if you are a citizen.

        • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

          Yes, I’ve read the Gospel a number of times, but it’s clear you haven’t. Nowhere in the New Testament, the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, does it describe any battles other than prayer battles that Christians fought – not one.

          Moses and Joshua of Jericho fame, were in the OLD TESTAMENT, specifically in the Books of Exodus and Joshua, BEFORE the time of Jesus. Those with any familiarity of the Bible would know that. So much for your 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th questions.

          Also, yes, I’m a citizen, a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as were my parents. And you? I also served this country for 20 years, including in the Vietnam War. Did you served? I doubt it. I also doubt you’ve seen dead people, including children. Sadly, I have.

          Yet I’m not a Chamberlain, an appeaser, or a Quisling, a traitor, nor am I a Nazi who’d mow down women and children as you would.

          I’m a firm believer that we’re a sovereign country where the federal government’s first duty is to protect our borders. It’s 2nd duty is to protect citizens and their rights. So I’m all in favor of even putting armed regular troops on the border. But I fear those like you who’d just mow people down.

          So why do you want to see that or participate in such killings? From your asking if I’m a citizen, likely due to my Hispanic name, I have to ask, is it that you dislike Hispanics?

          • Estell Newton

            YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY FROM MEXICO WHICH IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY. THEY CHANGED PARTS OF THE BIBLE TO SUIT WHAT THEY WANT IN IT.WE DO NOT HAVE TO LET ILLEGALS IN. THESE INVASIONS HAVE TO STOP. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE CAN’T TAKE IN EVERYONE. THERE APPEARS TO BE NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM. THEY ARE PAID BY SOROS TO COME. NO NO NO. WE CAN’T TAKE THEM IN. THERE ARE STARVING PEOPLE HERE AND HOMELESS. TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WE ALREADY HAVE AND THEN THINK ABOUT THE OTHERS. WE HAVE TO BE GENEROUS BUT TAKING IN PEOPLE WE CAN’T TAKE CARE OF IS UNCHRISTIAN. THERE ARE TERRORIST IN THAT CARAVAN. WE HAVE A DUTY TO OUR PEOPLE TO PROTECT THEM FIRST. i’M NOT SAYING NOBODY CAN COME HERE. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DECENT MEXICANS AND OTHER THAT CAME HERE LEGALLY. AND THAT’S THE WAY THEY MUST COME. IF THEY DON’T COME HERE LEGALLY THEY NEED TO BE SENT HOME. THE ONLY REASON THE DEMOCRATS WANT THE HERE IS THEY CAN ILLEGALLY VOTE.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Sadly you’re quite aliterate and have a need to SHOUT about it. You should take a course in reading comprehension.

            I’m a good old boy from Brooklyn, the home of Dem Bums. As I also mentioned, but you obviously couldn’t comprehend, so were my parents from the good old USA. It also includes my grandparents.

            By the way, I never have been and am not a Catholic. Rather, I’m a Bible believing Pentecostal Protestant. But I’m not sure you’d understand that. Yet I don’t know where the Catholics have changed the Bible to where it says we need to let illegals come in. Maybe you have a problem with Catholics.

            I also guess due to your aliteracy you missed my writing that, “I’m a firm believer that we’re a sovereign country where the federal government’s first duty is to protect our borders. It’s 2nd duty is to protect citizens and their rights. So I’m all in favor of even putting armed regular troops on the border.”

            So please, go back to school and take a course in reading comprehension and in writing composition.

          • Estell Newton

            You need to stop sticking up for illegal intruders. We have a right to protect our borders from intruders. No one said anything about indiscriminately but they have to kept out with force if necessary. The Viet Namese would send their children to get chocolates from our soldiers and at the same time they were taking the candy the kids were pulling pins on hand grenades. We can’t take chances like that.
            The have to be kept out.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I’ve never intimated we shouldn’t defend our borders. Yet no matter how you parse it, Ed Lee advocated the indiscriminate killing of men, women, and children. I find that inexcusable.

            I had a friend in Vietnam who faced the scenario you describe. The VC sent a boy about 5 to ask for candy, but gave him an activated grenade. He saw the boy coming and told him to stop without success. So he pulled his gun out and killed the boy. While it bothered my friend, he did what he had to do to protect his men.

            But I see some here trying to insinuate all the immigrants are dangerous criminals and should be killed. No doubt there’re criminals, MS13 gang members, and Mideast terrorists. That’s why we have to turn them back. But whole scale killing isn’t the answer.

          • Estell Newton

            We have to stop them no matter what it takes. They have to be forced back if necessary. But if they try to force their way through we need to do what’s necessary to force them ack. That would be an act of war if they try to forcibly enter. And God DOES allow that. There is no where in the Bible where it is stated we HAVE to let them in. God allowed Israel to be take to other countries as punishment but this is a different case. We can defend our borders from invasion. And love thy neighbor goes both ways. It doesn’t mean you can intrude on someone else’s property. That is stealing and that is against the Bible.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            As I plainly made clear, “I’ve never intimated we shouldn’t defend our borders. Yet no matter how you parse it, Ed Lee advocated the indiscriminate killing of men, women, and children. I find that inexcusable.”

            So I don’t understand why so many defend his desire for wanton slaughter.

          • Estell Newton

            No body said to indiscriminately kill them but we must defend our borders at all costs. We cannot take care of these illegals before we take care of our own people. If you look at those in the caravan there are no signs they have gone without anything. They do not look like they’ve been mistreated. They forced their way into Mexico. WE SIMPLY CANNOT ALLOW THEM IN OUR COUNTRY. THERE ARE TERRORISTS IN THAT CARAVAN. WE MUST PROTECT OUR OWN. THEY PLAN ON COMING IN HERE AND KILLING AT WILL.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I’m sorry, but it’s evident you lack understanding of what Ed Lee was advocating.

          • Estell Newton

            I UNDERSTANDTHEY’RE ILLEGAQL AND THERE ARE CRIINALS AMONG THEM. THEY CANNOT BE LET IN HERE JUST BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS WANT THEM HERE. THIS IS STILL AMERICA AND THE UN, THE POPE AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT IN POWER. THEY NEED TO GO HOME. THEY CAN’T HELP THEIR PEOPLE IF THEY ARE HERE AND MS13 MUST NOT BE ALLOWED HERE. THE DEMOCRATS CANNOT HAVE THEIR WAY IN THIS MATTER.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I’m not arguing that they should be allowed in the US. Nor am I arguing that the Democrats socialist agenda be allowed. I’m arguing the people in the caravan shouldn’t be slaughtered as Ed Lee wishes and which you support.

            But as I said you lack understanding of that and also of the Gospel. So you SCREAM for their blood. I guess you’ve forgotten the verse after Matthew 7:1.

          • Estell Newton

            if THAT’S WHAT IT TAKES SO BE IT. BUT GOD DOES ALLOW US TO SECURE OUR BORDERS . AND THEY MUST BE STOPPED. WE AREN’T EXPECTED TO JUST SIT AROUND AND LET TERRORISTS KILL OUR PEOPLE.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Your SCREAMING WON’T change things. You admit you’re willing like Ed Lee to slaughter women and children. It seems your lack of understanding of what I’ve written is due to your hatred and perhaps bigotry.

            Please read Matthew 7:1 AND 2. May God have mercy on your soul.

          • Estell Newton

            I AM IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE BORDER. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE USE CAPS FOR EWMPHASIS NOT FOR YELLING BECAUJSE YOU DEMOCRATS AREN’T LISTENING TO REASON. ILLEGALS DON NOT BELONG HERE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AND GOD SAYS IT’S OK TO PROTECT THE BORDER.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I take it you don’t believe in Exodus 20:16. Yet you need to stop lying. And your SCREAMING is no substitution for reason. As I said, you CAN’T or DON’T want to understand what I’ve written. I guess you’re just aliterate.

            So several points. Sadly, I doubt you’ll have the intelligence to understand them or the courage and integrity to admit I wrote them.

            First, I believe in protecting our borders. That’s the very FIRST duty of the federal government. But the mass slaughter of men, women and children is not the way to do it. Only a Klan member, communist, or heathen would call for that. God will not condone what Ed Lee proposes and you support.

            Second, I’ve indicated before I believe that ALL illegal immigrants in this country should be deported. Also, law permits illegal caught within 100 miles of the border and less than 14 days in the country to be deported without a hearing. I believe we should base immigration as the President said on a merit based system based on the needs of the country. As I’ve also said, I agree with putting troops on the border.

            Third, I’m a Christian conservative constitutionalist Republican who defended this country for 20 years and paid a price for it. I believe in the rule of law, not vigilante action likely based bigotry.

            Fourth, like a a xenophobic and religious bigot you’ve accused me of being from Mexico and a Catholic. Now you call me a Democrat. What will it be next, a socialist or communist?

            So SCREAM like a hooded night rider but I suggest you go to the Lord Jesus in prayer and ask that He give our leaders wisdom in how to stop this invasion of illegal immigrants without wholesale slaughter.

            I don’t believe in being a pacifist, a Quisling, a Chamberlain, OR a butcher. What do you believe in? It doesn’t seem to be in the Bible otherwise you wouldn’t engage in bearing false witness.

            I’ll leave you with a quote from Pres. Teddy Roosevelt I think you’ll agree with. “The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer.”

            Then you can SCREAM AND HOWL all you want.

          • Estell Newton

            As I have said people use caps for emphasis not just for screaming. God has told his people before to go to war. He expects us to protect our borders from these criminals that are coming. There are criminals in them. If you don’t believe it watch the news. They are fighting the police to force their way into Mexico. Our country is next. God does NOT expect us to just stand there and let them in. It is illegal. Keeping them out is NOT against God. In fact it is very much God’s way. Our troops will get injured and probably get killed. We do NOT have to stand t here and let them in. The second caravan has guns and molatov cocktails We have to stop them at all costs . Our country and soverenty is at stake. The first caravan has isis and ms13 gang members.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I find it sad to see how aliterate and dishonest you are.

          • Estell Newton

            NOT ILLITERACY OR DISHONEST TO WANT MY COUNTRY DEFENDED AGAINST ILLEGAL INTRUDERS. THEY MILITARY WAS TOLD TO TREAT ROCKS OR OTHER FLYING DEVICES AS A GUN BECAUSE THEY COULD DO THE SAME DAMAGE. IT IS STILL OUR COUNTRY. IF YOU DON'[T WANT IT DEFENDED THERE ARE OTHERE COUNTRIES YOU MIGHT BE HAPPIER IN.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I defended this country for 20 years and paid a price for it. I doubt you’ve ever served. So stop your SCREAMING lying.

          • Estell Newton

            You are contradicting yourself. Bible. You don’t understand it. Love your neighbor does NOT mean we have to let them in under any circumstances. Stop[ with your rederick. No body’ is listening to you. You don’t want women and children hurt. The better send them back home. They re mixed in with the men and if they start throwing stuff the will get hurt. Like it or not.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Quit bearing false witness like a heathen. You can’t even explain how I’m contradicting myself.

          • Estell Newton

            Telling you the truth is NOT bearing false witness. We have a right to defend our country. You democrats want the caravan people here to pad the votes illegally. country and we won’t. They have no rights here. All they want are freebies and they cannot legally work or get welfare. We have laws which are to obeyed by everyone here. God gave us the right to protect our borders. And don’t send me to Exodus. I know the Ten Commandments are in there. Thou shalt not kill is referring to intentional killing of innocent people. Illegals trying to enter without permission are intruders and not included in the commandment. Stop misinterpreting the Bible.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            As you seem unable to understand what I’ve written, let’s take it one lie at a time.

            1. You called me a Democrat. That’s a LIE. Never been one. In college I was a Libertarian. After that I’ve always been a registered Republican.

            2. You said I want the caravan here. That’s a LIE. I want it and ALL illegal immigration stopped. But not by a wholesale slaughter.

            3. You said you know the 10 Commandments. That’s a LIE. Exodus 20:16 states; “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” Verse 13 says, “Thou shalt not kill.”

            4. You said I’m contradicting myself. That’s a LIE. You refuse to prove when challenged.

            5. You said, “Love your neighbor does NOT mean we have to let them in under any circumstances.” That’s a LIE. I’ve never alluded to letting illegals into the US.

            6. You screamed, “IF YOU DON'[T WANT IT DEFENDED THERE ARE OTHERE COUNTRIES YOU MIGHT BE HAPPIER IN.” That’s a LIE. I defended this country in the AF for 20 years and am disabled for doing so. I’m writing from a rehab center after a stay in the VA hospital for serious problems.

            7. You wrote, “You need to get a life and stop twisting the Bible to suit what you want to believe.” That’s a LIE. My scripture references were to not bearing false witness and not judging others by a standard you don’t want to face. You lied and judged me without reason.

            8. You wrote, ” All you are doing is pushing your communist rhetoric…KEEP YOUR COMMUNIST RHETORIC TO YO9UR SELF.” That’s a LIE. I’m not a communist for not wanting a slaughter. I’m a Christian and a conservative Republican who believes in the rule of law..

            9. You said, “You are a hypocrite.” That’s a LIE. A hypocrite acts in contradiction to his stated beliefs. You can’t show where I’ve contradicted what I’ve written. I’ve never supported a slaughter.

            10. You wrote, “God has told his people before to go to war.” That’s a LIE, Nowhere in the New Testament has God told Christians to go to war. Nor has he told Christians to be pacifists or doormats.

            11. You wrote, “The liars, haters and bigots are the people like you who think our country should be taken over by those who don’t belong here at the expense of those who do.” That’s a LIE. I’ve never implied we should let illegal or legal immigrants take over our country. Yet you call me a bigot, hater, and a liar for saying we mustn’t indiscriminately gun down women and children. Hate whom, fellow Americans or the country? Lie about what, the Bible or our laws?

            12. You said, “You need to stop sticking up for illegal intruders.” That’s a LIE. I’ve said many times we should stop illegal immigration.

            13. You shouted, “YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY FROM MEXICO WHICH IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY.” That’s a LIE. As I stated, I was born in the USA as were my parents. I fought and suffered for this country. Also, I’ve always have been a a Protestant, although I’ve never been bigoted against Catholics.

            Well, that makes a baker’s dozen of your LIES and my refuting them. You know little about telling the truth as you’ve consistently borne false witness against me. So I haven’t interpreted the Bible incorrectly about bearing false witness or judging others. Sadly, I doubt you’ll understand this as you’re blinded to what I’ve written out of political demagoguery and to the light of God’s Word.

            Please seek the Lord’s help to deal with your bigotry and dishonesty.

          • Estell Newton

            You are a hypocrite. Wake up. YOU are twisting the Bible around to looke like what you believe. one.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Frankly, I think Ed Lee and your are wannabe murderers, willing to kill women and children not to protect the country but to kill those you despise.

            If you had read what I wrote and understood it then you’d see it’s you who’s a hypocrite. I seriously doubt you even know what Exodus 20:16 or Matthew 7:1-2 mean. Both of you need to find Jesus Christ.

          • Estell Newton

            You need to get a life and stop twisting the Bible to suit what you want to believe. We are supposed to support our government and the laws. All you are doing is pushing your communist rhetoric The women and children in that caravan are not innocent any more than the men are. True Christians do NOT back criminals which is what you are doing. WE HAVE LAWSW AND WE ARE TO FOLLOW THEM UNLESS SECURING OUR BORDERS ARE NOT GOING AGAINST GOD’S LAWS. KEEP YOUR COMMUNIST RHETORIC TO YO9UR SELF.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            All you’re proving is your aliteracy, your chicanery, and that you’re not a mature Christian. Please seek the Lord in prayer.

          • Estell Newton

            We have to do what is necessary to defend our b orders. If they get in the way then so be it. Just because we don’t agree with you that doesn’t mean we hate or are bigots. The liars, haters and bigots are the people like you who think our country should be taken over by those who don’t belong here at the expense of those who do. Stop your hippocracy and straighten up . We will NOT allow illegals here to kill and rape our women and children. That IS where the wrong is. We need to keep our people safe at all costs. You democrats just want them here to vote illegally in our elections when they have no right to vote and no right to anything else.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            You continue to prevaricate as if it’s second nature to you. No one can be that aliterate.

            I doubt you’ve risked your life, sacrificed for this country, or paid a price for serving it, yet like a caitiff you denigrate those who have. You don’t know what it’s like to fly against those trying to invade this country. You don’t know what it’s like to have a daughter raped and almost killed by an illegal immigrant. You don’t know what it’s like to be almost killed by a bigot like you because you’re a member of a minority group and not an Aryan American. You haven’t been called a traitor for serving in the military.

            To you, not wanting to kill women and children is hatred of this country, it’s bigotry because we don’t hate so much that we’d indiscriminately slaughter people, and it’s lying because we want to stay true to the rule of law and the Gospel.

            So just like the snowflake Progressive Democrats rather than engage in a cogent discussion you peddle in slander to demonize someone you look down upon. Just whose side are you really on?

          • Marie

            I believe in the American law that you can react in kind. If they push you, you can push them back, if they hit you, you can hit them back. If they fire a shot, or try to kill you, you have the right to defend yourself. But they must be first in their actions. Therefore, if the invaders push, our defenders should and must push back. If they hit a member(s) of our defenders, they should and must hit back. If they fire upon, or in some way, try to kill a member(s) they should and must respond in kind. Instead of staying in their own countries, and trying to make their countries better, they choose (or were paid) to come here and wreak havoc, and try to make this the third world country they just came from. As a citizen, you should be able to see what they are doing. They are breaking our first law by trying to enter illegally. Others that have applied legally have waited years to enter our country, and I welcome them with open arms. These illegals I would not give air if they were in a jug. And, just so you know, I have nothing against legal Hispanics like yourself.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I agree. First, I’m an Natural Born Citizen from Brooklyn, NY who served this country for 20 years and paid a price for it.

            I like your straightforward explanation of the law. I believe illegal immigrants should be deported and wait in line to enter legally. If the enter illegally several times they should be permanently barred from coming in on pain of 10 years in prison. I’m so harsh that I believe those who murder or rape should be deported in a pine box.

            Sadly, what Ed Lee at the beginning of this thread was indiscriminate killing of men, women, and children. There’s no way to justify or soften his comment as many want to do or to support his view. As a retired military man I know full well the effects of an M60 machine gun. I’d love to have one. But it puts out a lot of fire power and is meant to mow down groups and mobs.

          • mrpoohead

            The Right to Defend – pre-dates all constitutions. Duh!

      • Estell Newton

        THEY DON’T BELONG HERE. THEY ARE INVADING OUR COUNTRY. IF THEY CROSS IT’S THE SAME AS DECLARING WAR AGAINST THE us. WE NEED TO DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO KEEP THEM OUT.

        • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

          It’s true that coming here illegally is not only against our laws but also against God’s as we’re to obey the laws as long as they don’t conflict with God’s. But indiscriminate killing as you propose is against God’s law. But I doubt I can explain that to you. I’m sorry.

          • brightonmusic

            Indiscriminate killing? You are delusional. If anyone breaks into my house regardless of age or sex, they will be “mowed down”.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Let’s say a bunch of children for a Halloween prank broke into your home to scare you and you mowed them down knowing the were unarmed children. What do you think would happen to you?

          • brightonmusic

            Nothing would happen. My fondest wish is that a bunch of 15 year old “children” break into your home. Your religious crap won’t save you from harm.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Of course your type would wish others who don’t agree with your murderous bent to be harmed. A also understand your rejection of the Gospel. However, my fondest wish is that you’d have a Saul type experience.

          • RG

            Agree. Thank you for your recent upvotes in The Forward. The Forward removed me and all of my comments. They are fascists and don’t like free speech that they disagree with.

          • Estell Newton

            It would not be indiscriminate killing. It would be protecting our borders from violent criminals. They do not have the right to just come into our country and we do have the right to force them out. They are not coming here to be peaceful. If they were and were actually in trouble in their home country, that would be a different story. They are using innocent children to get their way. There is a way to get the men without getting the children. And it’s better for the military to go in than the militia that’s threating to do the job.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            As I mentioned, I can’t explain it to you. You want blood to flow, even that of women and children you portray as violent criminals. So please leave God Christianity out of this. It appears you don’t understand or accept Gospel.

      • Rob Polans

        ANYTIME we lost, it was because of rules of engagement. In Nam we learned screw the rules. As far as the “innocent women and children,” they were suicide bombers and shields. Now we have an invasion and the military is again hamstrung. Toss a jacket over the barbed wire and climb. That easy. The VERY HARD part is when they meet the paramilitary groups, militias and everyday patriots. Especially considering the caravan number is down to 3 or 4 thousand.

        • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

          While the rules of engagement caused problems, it wasn’t the cause for our loss in Vietnam. It was the politics by the anti-war demonstrators and Democrat politicians who caused LBJ not to run for a 2nd term and Nixon to end the war. The greatest contributor to the unrest here in the US was the biased news reporting we saw on TV every day at dinner time.

          I had an aircraft commandeer who for a while served in MAC V in Saigon at the beginning of the war under JFK. At the Saigon Hilton he overheard several TV network talking heads who believed the war was wrong and intended to report it in a biased manner. We never lost a major battle, but you wouldn’t think so from the TV reporting. A good example was the Tet Offensive. Militarily it was a major disaster for the NVA and the VC, but propaganda wise it was a bonanza.

          Perhaps you remember the Mai Lai Massacre. The women and children weren’t suicide bombers but the VC conducted raids on S. Vietnamese and American troops in the hamlets. So we sent weary troops in with inexperienced leaders and damn poor intel. The result was a disaster.

          I don’t believe we need to see a massacre on live TV as much as some “paramilitary groups, militias and everyday patriots” would love to engage in bloodletting. But hell, go for it. You’ll hand the socialists, the Democrats, and the bleeding heart open borders liberals a victory the GOP and the Trump administration won’t recover from.

          So let our Border Patrol State Guards, and the Regular military handle it, Give them commonsense rule of engagement, not what we saw under the last administration in combat zones in Afghanistan and Iraq. Don’t let them guard the border without live ammo as was done at the Marine Beirut

    • John Linardy

      The “Pig”!

      • Ed Lee

        Yep…never thought I would say it, but it is time to get the Pig!!!

    • Rob Polans

      Bro, as a Lt. of one paramilitary platoon, that’s almost exactly what we’re doing. A nice thought, but a wall won’t work although it was fun electrifying it for seconds and seeing them jump off.

      • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

        Other than the cost, why not use electric fences like we do with cattle.

  • antimarxist

    The U.S. has provided a model to the world for how to have a successful, free people who can aspire to what ever they want (not that success is guaranteed). We did that by beating the greatest military power in the world at the time. When they decide they want to free their own countries from despotic, marxist rule and they take up arms against that despotic rule we should help them. Until then, we have rules for how to immigrate to this country, if they aren’t going to follow our laws, to hell with them.
    By the way, the U.S. is currently providing a model to the world for how to screw up a free country; by letting people who have NO SKIN IN THE GAME vote because they will vote for politicians who give them stuff and politicians will give away the country if it gets them enough votes to maintain their own worthless careers! Sending us all on the road to serfdom.

  • Glenn Saulsbury

    Helping them turn their asses around and sending them back home. I am sick and tired of our taxes going
    to someone who is here illegally. Come on Trump get the damn wall up.

  • regulus30

    why are libocrats ugly? They have to buy their votes just like the blacks.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      Tell me, had Dr. Carson, Sec. Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, or Mia Love been the Republican candidate in 2016, would you have voted for any of them. Or are you consumed by animus towards blacks?

      • regulus30

        I respect anyone who is not racially motivated and have personally met several of those you mentioned; People who are successful make their own way not because of their skin color.Barack Hussein Obama was a disgrace to America and blacks; i base my opinion of people by their love for America and the Constitution and by their deeds.All those you mentioned are good citizens and I admire them.

        • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

          You’re quite right about Mr. (intentional) Obama. Using the Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven plans he wanted to change the USA into the USSA.

          Thanks.

      • regulus30

        Since libocrat/fascists, community organizers and black media ‘talking heads’ always characterize successful blacks as ‘Uncle Toms’; the question is would YOU have voted for any of them?

        • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

          That doesn’t answer my question, but I will answer it. ABSOLUTELY! I wish Condoleezza Rice had run. See had government experience as Secretary of State and is quite brilliant. Of course she carried the baggage of the Bush administration.

          In this last primary I supported Dr. Carson against a loud mouthed, aggressive, arrogant bully. But now I think we need Trump.

          Now, will you answer my original question? All of them are conservatives and constitutionalism who love America and want to restore America to a great constitutional Republic.

          • regulus30

            You don’t seem too good at interpreting my comments so I will elaborate, I attended rallies and supported Herman Cain’s bid. I will vote for anyone who is good for America, I have no ill will against blacks they do what they do some good some bad.

          • Estell Newton

            Just like any other race. I’ve had more problems with whites than I have had with all other races combined. And I’m white.

          • regulus30

            MLK judge a man by the content of his character not the color of his skin

          • Estell Newton

            Right on. There are good and bad in all races.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            My apologies for misinterpreting your comment. I think your opinion on supporting anyone who’s good for America is right on.

            Thanks.

          • regulus30

            You appear to be a good solid citizen;my pleasure to chat with you.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Thanks. I’m an over-the-hill conservative curmudgeon. 🙂

            Have a great weekend.

          • regulus30

            We must continue to fight;; the pen is mightier than the sword.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            Absolutely! But if necessary, we must be prepared to take up the sword. I hope and pray that doesn’t happen, but I fear I might be wrong.

          • regulus30

            Had MLK and JFK been allowed to see their dreams America would be a different nation today; but the radical left wing democrat socialists could not allow this to happen, re: bill ayers, tom hayden, abbey hoffman, barack obama, they were dedicated to pushing America left.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            You’re absolutely right. They were following the teachings of Saul Alinsky and Cloward and Pivens. It’s interesting to note that Hillary Rodham’s (Clinton) college thesis was on Saul Alinsky whom she admired.

          • regulus30

            You are knowledgeable and aware of the danger.

          • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

            I try to be. It’s not easy for an old curmudgeon, but I want my children’s and grandchildren’s future to be in a free Republic.

  • I’ll join you Ed Don’t know how to shoot an M60 but can’t be that hard

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      It’s not an easy weapon to handle.People here call it the Pig for good reason. When shoulder fired it was quite inaccurate. Still, I wouldn’t want to face someone with one.

  • BEM

    Democrats the gift that keeps giving especially when it is pther peoples money. Vote red and walkaway! American citizens and vets not to mention our infrastructure needs taken care of before anymore freebies fot illegals!

  • Gordon Raymond

    How stupid are the Democrats?

  • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

    We need to elect politicians who understand or to teach them that the first duty of our federal government is to protect our borders. Its second duty is to protect citizens and their rights.

  • Patrick Feeney

    The Demoncrats just want the immigrants in our country for their votes. The Demoncrats have all of the sincerity of a prostitutes kiss!

  • Front Sight

    Sen. Ben Cardin, just how many (exact numbers) of migrants are you planning to accept, feed, clothe, house, give free medical care, etc?

  • Estell Newton

    The people in the caravan look healthy, clean and well fed and watered. Why should we help people that were paid by Soros to come here? They are supposed to stop at the first country them come to not invade two countries down the road. Send them all home.

  • Bay0Wulf

    Senator Ben Cardin (D-MD) is, to put it plainly, a TRAITOR to the US Citizens of these United States of America.
    He IS NOT ALONE.
    Every Elected Person of whatever Party, of whatever Station, currently SERVING We the People of these United States of America, who puts the Well Being of ANY Foreign National of ANY Nation ahead of the Best Interests of the US Citizenry … of These United States … is similarly a TRAITOR.
    FURTHER, It is Against the Law to Harbor, Succor or Give Aid to ANY Criminal for ANY Reason Whatsoever.
    ANY Civilian giving such aid, in doing so, becomes a Criminal Themselves.
    ANY Elected Person has been Duly Sworn In AND Has Taken An Oath to Uphold the Laws of THESE United States of America. They Break These Laws at THEIR OWN Peril … in the FULL Knowledge that They are Acting Against the Best Interests of Their Constituents, the US Citizenry AND the United States of America.
    Any Civilian MIGHT be Excused … though Ignorance of the Law IS No Excuse.
    ANY Elected Person, ANY Person Responsible for Upholding the Law KNOWS They Are Acting Outside the Law.

    Perhaps it is time to Start
    Impeaching These People
    Imprisoning These People.
    Suing These People
    Dragging These People through the US Courts …

    They are not just Practising Malfeasance in Office, They are making Mockery of the United States of America, the US Constitution AND the US Citizenry.

    THEY Seem to LIKE “WITCH HUNTS”
    Perhaps THEY should become the OBJECT of One.

  • gary

    Just like the Democratic party, wanting to increase Taxes, just so they can spend our money on illegals.
    Letting in Criminals, don’t effect the Democratic Communist party, a would be Dictatorship.

  • Heidi Kuhl

    How can people keep voting for these MORONS?!

  • Ed Lee

    Well fella, you are 10 years short of a retired vet like me. BTW MY Bible has 2 Testaments and must be taken in its entirely not pick and choose. Of course, it you had spent anytime in a firebase, seen Charlie coming and coming and launching over their dead, using them as bridges to cross the fence to kill us….forget it. I am not a Nazi nor am I a bleeding heart idiot like you seem to be. I have fought for my country, an served in headquarters as well sending other young men to do their duty, before they were volunteers. My country is important to me, the flag is almost sacred to me, who served under it. My whole point was allusional; détente has always been developed on fear of retaliation. You seem rather slow. Perhaps we really should check your citizenship papers flaunting a name like yours. American is my country and I don’t like those trying to take it from me, either economically, physically or idealogically. If you won’t protect it, then leave.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      You write, “Perhaps we really should check your citizenship papers flaunting a name like yours.” That clearly shows that you’re an anti-Hispanic bigot. I’ve refrained from saying that I believe you want to slaughter those in the caravan because they’re Hispanic, but now you’ve shown that to be true.

      Please don’t use the Bible. You know nothing about it, as I’ve proven in a previous response. There’s no allusional events in the Gospel that support your position about battles Christians fought. Christianity wasn’t around at the time of the battle of Jericho.

      I served this country for 20 years and paid a price for it. I took my oath to support and protect the Constitution seriously and still do. That includes the rule of law, not a vigilante desire for slaughtering people. I may never have served at a firebase,I respect the sacrifice and risks of those who did, but I saw my fair share of enemy fighters, some not so friendly.

      By the way, many of us Hispanics are Natural Born Citizens as well as our parents and grandparents. But I doubt that’s good enough for you as we’re not Aryan Caucasians.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      You write, “Perhaps we really should check your citizenship papers flaunting a name like yours.” That clearly shows that you’re an anti-Hispanic bigot. I’ve refrained from saying that I believe you want to slaughter those in the caravan because they’re Hispanic, but now you’ve shown that to be true.

      Please don’t use the Bible. You know nothing about it, as I’ve proven in a previous response. There’s no allusional events in the Gospel that support your position about battles Christians fought. Christianity wasn’t around at the time of the battle of Jericho.

      I served this country for 20 years and paid a price for it. I took my oath to support and protect the Constitution seriously and still do. That includes the rule of law, not a vigilante desire for slaughtering people. I may never have served at a firebase,I respect the sacrifice and risks of those who did, but I saw my fair share of enemy fighters, some not so friendly.

      By the way, many of us Hispanics are Natural Born Citizens as well as our parents and grandparents. But I doubt that’s good enough for you as we’re not Aryan Caucasians.

  • generalJed

    Tell that to the 16 illegal aliens from a slave labor camp who tried to kill myself and my mother in 1988. Fortunately, we foresaw this development and had “evil assault rifles hidden around our mfg. plant. These people hate our country and are being used by Democrats to purposely destroy our country and turn it into a “Socialist Paradise”. All illegal immigrants need to be forcibly returned to their “mother country”.

  • Ed Lee

    It appears Roberto needs to take the course in reading comp. I said NO ONE will cross the line. Nothing about indiscriminately spraying a mob with bullets. I love reading his postings, calling everyone names, labels, derogatory terms…typical liberal arguing tactics…..and he lives in a sanc city. No wonder he is confused and messed up. Here’s a thought…lets transport this big caravan up to invade NYC and let them handle it.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      Why do you prevaricate so much? Is it you’re too much the caitiff to discuss the issue cogently with me? I asked you a question in my response to you. Yet you didn’t have the courage or integrity to answer it.

      But to your canards and innuendos, I don’t want to see anyone allowed into the US illegally. In addition, like our president, I believe we should use a merit based system for legal immigration. We should restrict or ban even legal immigration from dangerous areas. If it were feasible, I’d deport all illegal immigrants, but that’s not feasible. However, Illegal immigrant who raped or murdered should be deported in a pine box. I say that from sad family experience. I believe in Voter ID and E-Verify. Of course I guess you believe those are all liberal positions. Maybe it’s because I don’t agree with white supremacist or xenophobic positions being Hispanic. Is the latter a problem with you?

      If a large group were to use M60s to stop people from crossing the border illegally, do you really believe that women and children along with men wouldn’t be slaughtered? The M60 isn’t exactly a sniper rifle.

      By the way, you’ve no idea what city I live in yet you prevaricate about it. I suppose it fits your narrative. However, I live in Deplorable flyover country in the Midwest and the State is quite Red. Nor did I vote for the traitor Hillary. That’d be too much for this Republican conservative constitutionalist and Christian.

      As for transporting the caravan to NYC, go for it. I’d love to see socialist Mayor de Blasio handle it. Better yet, put them all in the Granola State. But then what do I know, I’m confused and messed up. After all, I’m just a retired disable vet who knows the damage and mayhem a bunch of men armed with M60s can do.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      Why do you prevaricate so much? Is it you’re too much the caitiff to discuss the issue cogently with me? I asked you a question in my response to you. Yet you didn’t have the courage or integrity to answer it.

      But to your canards and innuendos, I don’t want to see anyone allowed into the US illegally. In addition, like our president, I believe we should use a merit based system for legal immigration. We should restrict or ban even legal immigration from dangerous areas. If it were feasible, I’d deport all illegal immigrants, but that’s not feasible. However, Illegal immigrant who raped or murdered should be deported in a pine box. I say that from sad family experience. I believe in Voter ID and E-Verify. Of course I guess you believe those are all liberal positions. Maybe it’s because I don’t agree with white supremacist or xenophobic positions being Hispanic. Is the latter a problem with you?

      If a large group were to use M60s to stop people from crossing the border illegally, do you really believe that women and children along with men wouldn’t be slaughtered? The M60 isn’t exactly a sniper rifle.

      By the way, you’ve no idea what city I live in yet you prevaricate about it. I suppose it fits your narrative. However, I live in Deplorable flyover country in the Midwest and the State is quite Red. Nor did I vote for the traitor Hillary. That’d be too much for this Republican conservative constitutionalist and Christian.

      As for transporting the caravan to NYC, go for it. I’d love to see socialist Mayor de Blasio handle it. Better yet, put them all in the Granola State. But then what do I know, I’m confused and messed up. After all, I’m just a retired disable vet who knows the damage and mayhem a bunch of men armed with M60s can do.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      Why do you prevaricate so much? Is it you’re too much the caitiff to discuss the issue cogently with me? I asked you a question in my response to you. Yet you didn’t have the courage or integrity to answer it.

      But to your canards and innuendos, I don’t want to see anyone allowed into the US illegally. In addition, like our president, I believe we should use a merit based system for legal immigration. We should restrict or ban even legal immigration from dangerous areas. If it were feasible, I’d deport all illegal immigrants, but that’s not feasible. However, Illegal immigrant who raped or murdered should be deported in a pine box. I say that from sad family experience. I believe in Voter ID and E-Verify. Of course I guess you believe those are all liberal positions. Maybe it’s because I don’t agree with white supremacist or xenophobic positions being Hispanic. Is the latter a problem with you?

      If a large group were to use M60s to stop people from crossing the border illegally, do you really believe that women and children along with men wouldn’t be slaughtered? The M60 isn’t exactly a sniper rifle.

      By the way, you’ve no idea what city I live in yet you prevaricate about it. I suppose it fits your narrative. However, I live in Deplorable flyover country in the Midwest and the State is quite Red. Nor did I vote for the traitor Hillary. That’d be too much for this Republican conservative constitutionalist and Christian.

      As for transporting the caravan to NYC, go for it. I’d love to see socialist Mayor de Blasio handle it. Better yet, put them all in the Granola State. But then what do I know, I’m confused and messed up. After all, I’m just a retired disable vet who knows the damage and mayhem a bunch of men armed with M60s can do.

    • Roberto Enrique Benitez II

      Why do you prevaricate so much? Is it you’re too much the caitiff to discuss the issue cogently with me? I asked you a question in my response to you. You didn’t have the courage or integrity to answer it directly.

      But as to your canards and innuendos, I don’t want to see anyone allowed into the US illegally. In addition, like our president, I believe we should use a merit based system for legal immigration according to the needs of our country. We should restrict or even ban legal immigration from dangerous areas. If it were feasible, I’d deport all illegal immigrants, but it’s not. However, Illegal immigrant who rape or murder should be deported in a pine box. I say that from sad family experience. I believe in Voter ID and E-Verify. But I guess you believe those are all liberal positions. Maybe it’s because being Hispanic I don’t agree with white supremacist or xenophobic positions. Is the latter a problem with you?

      Let’s be real. If a large group were to use M60s to stop people from crossing the border illegally, do you really believe that women and children along with men wouldn’t be slaughtered? The M60 isn’t exactly a sniper rifle.

      By the way, you’ve no idea what city I live in yet you prevaricate about it. I suppose it fits your nativist narrative. However, I live in Deplorable flyover country in the Midwest and the State is quite Red. Nor did I vote for the traitor Hillary. That’d be too much for this Republican conservative constitutionalist and Christian.

      As for transporting the caravan to NYC, go for it. I’d love to see socialist Mayor de Blasio handle it. Better yet, put them all in the Granola State. But then what do I know, I’m confused and messed up according to you. After all, I’m just a retired disable vet who knows the damage and mayhem a bunch of men armed with M60s can do.